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Ruttly Serious Thumper Offline Thumpers Rule Posts: 5497 Manteca , CA Gender:	Re: One Adam 12....... Reply #15 - 04/30/16 at 12:59:04 Raydawg if I said I hate everyone would that make me a racist ? Or would you consider me an equal opportunity hater ? Remember there is only one race the human race.
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Reply #17 - 04/30/16 at 13:10:53

Homo is the genus that comprises the species Homo sapiens, which includes modern humans, as well as several ...

Canine equals all dogs
Breed is a type of dog.

Humans are of one species
Race is type.

What a tidy world you've made for yourself.

And if anyone is so caught up in believing that, even though dogs of specific breeds have particular traits , and abilities, people of one race are equally talented and equally able,on average, to accomplish certain tasks as those of any other race, well, they're so afraid of the PCpolice they can't think straight.

I'll put my money on the Kenyan if it's a distance race.

A bloodhound is the only animal whose results are valid in court.
Why do people insist that each race is equally capable?
Who kicks ass at math like the Asian kids?
If each race is so equally able, why do I see the ratio of black to white in pro sports? Let's try to be rational.

And how OLD are the societies in Africa? And how many factories did they build?

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Reply #18 - 04/30/16 at 13:36:59

Nice.

The one thing we should do, though, is treat everyone with reasonable good faith, regardless of their breeding. Deal with everyone on an individual basis.

This is the reason that we have laws and philosophies of non-discrimination, so that people won't hit a brick wall in life because of who their Mom and Dad are or somethin'. It was far worse in the old days. In older civilizations, you didn't need to be black to get the boot, you just needed to be from a poor family instead of that of a rich lord. Ahhh... the Middle Ages...

One group of people may have different, strengths, weaknesses, and personality tendencies, but there are exceptions everywhere. We are dealing with real people with rights and feelings. Treat someone as you'd like to be treated. That's even in the Bible. As the cliche goes, "Don't judge a book by it's cover." The cover may suggest things, but the truth is revealed later, if ever...

Does a man ever really know what he himself is capable of?

Get what I'm trying to say? There are differences... maybe... but we've gotta treat people fairly...gotta treat 'em right. 'Can't use differences as an excuse to treat people wrong.'

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Reply #19 - 04/30/16 at 13:56:30

Justin you are correct and educated I can see. But does one dog deserve more love than another because he can do what other dogs can't. Does one man deserve to be treated less equally because his country has no factories. Maybe I see things alittle different. If all in this world were to be treated equal spite color or origin might it be a better place. Evil still running wild in this world and no one man can stop it. Equality would be a good starting point. When those who don't feel equal become equal that what will help end racism & help to rid this world of evil.
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Reply #20 - 04/30/16 at 14:27:15

I never suggested that. I don't treat short people different from tall, I treat people as nice as they will allow. Some have screwed me, none worse than white, male, self described Christians.
If I can look at someone's color and know them, and everyone different from me is bad, then don't I HAVE to like, trust and appreciate those who look like me?

Don't pretend that you have a clue about me. My thinking is much more advanced than most. You haven't been around long enough to see what I have been saying for the last ten years.

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Reply #21 - 04/30/16 at 15:13:39

When problems occur is when stereotypes, heuristics, quick associations cause one to judge someone and deny him the good treatment he deserves, whether that be a job, legal/criminal matters, trust, or simple courtesy. When there is a problem associated with certain people and appearances, there may be a certain degree of concern that comes with that. That's fine and reasonable...You just have to do the best you can to be good to them.

The liberals seem to be out of balance. There are many sides to an issue. The key is proper balance. It's not enough to be "right" in certain ways. Being obsessed with one side of the argument too much causes an imbalance. Many of the problems the libs complain about do exist. The problem is that the libs go crazy about it.

Justin, I'm cool. Cool

Don't know about Ruttly, though.

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Reply #22 - 04/30/16 at 15:16:05

Whoo Justin I am not judging you , merely sharing my thoughts and enjoying the spirited conversion , not trying to prove you right or wrong. You are right about something. The one people that truly scare me are overly religious people. However to relate human races to species of dogs might not be the best analogy. I'm not perfect or that educated but one should treat others with respect and hopefully it will be returned, sometimes it won't be then adjust attitude as needed. I do not judge people I know , I'm sure your a fine example of homo sapien. Pretty sure I spelled that wrong. Much love have a great day !

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Reply #23 - 04/30/16 at 15:20:16

Son, a robbery accured, we have witness to dress being a commonality to both scenarios, and one report of possible race.
We have law enforcement that is paid, and expected to, combat such crime by apprehending the suspects.
Which of the two discriptions stands the best chance of helping the police perform their jobs and protect the innocent citizens?

Do you have any reasonable explanation as to why the officers were not afforded through information on both of these episodes if available?

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Reply #24 - 04/30/16 at 15:23:47

Ruttly wrote on 04/30/16 at 15:16:05:

Whoo Justin I am not judging you , merely sharing my thoughts and enjoying the spirited conversion , not trying to prove you right or wrong. You are right about something. The one people that truly scare me are overly religious people. However to relate human races to species of dogs might not be the best analogy. I'm not perfect or that educated but one should treat others with respect and hopefully it will be returned, sometimes it won't be then adjust attitude as needed. I do not judge people I know , I'm sure your a fine example of homo sapien. Pretty sure I spelled that wrong. Much love have a great day !

A wise man once said, Be the change in this world you desire of others......
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Reply #25 - 04/30/16 at 15:28:25

Comparing people to dogs is, more or less, fine with me. It could ring badly to some's ears, especially since "man's best friend" is not their only association, if you know what I mean.

Too many people out there are too sensitive to every possible detail and connotation of what someone says. Trump is probably currently our most famous victim of being slammed for non-PC-filtered talk. Watching P's and Q's is rather important today, though I wonder: when has it not been that way?

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Ruttly Serious Thumper Offline Thumpers Rule Posts: 5497 Manteca , CA Gender:	Re: One Adam 12....... Reply #26 - 04/30/16 at 15:38:36 Well put raydawg. Guess some members are not understanding me but that's ok. I'm just having great time for a short man at a tall table. Thanks all for the spirited conversation . Got to go see Joe Bonamassa concert. So let the Ruttly bashing begin.
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Ruttly wrote on 04/30/16 at 15:16:05:

Whoo Justin I am not judging you , merely sharing my thoughts and enjoying the spirited conversion , not trying to prove you right or wrong. You are right about something. The one people that truly scare me are overly religious people.

However to relate human races to species of dogs might not be the best analogy.
It's perfect. It forces anyone who believes there is only one race to see that is incorrect. Humans are all one species, homo sapiens. The different races are analogous to the different breeds of the canine species. Different breeds of canines have different natural abilities. Some of THOSE have heightened abilities. Some bloodhounds track better than others. Some Jack Russels out perform others, but NO teacup Chihuahua can compete against the lousiest Jack Russell. The brainwashing of the masses, teaching them to be blind to the differences, is just a gut wrenching tragedy to me. SEE the differences, appreciate them. Sure, you're gonna see the short white boy play pro basketball. Anomalies exist. Performance and abilities are COMPLETELY separate from CHARACTER.
Some really good football players are also ra p ists and murderers. Some highly thought of public figures are, apparently, rapists. Color is Not a factor. People are complicated, hearts and minds don't care about what color their skin is. The only people who care about color are small minded, unintelligent people who use it to justify their actions.

I treat everyone respectfully, well, I Used to. I recently learned that IF I deem someone to be a hater, I can be abusive to them and I am Justified. Of course, I get to apply that label to anyone who disagrees with me.
Social Justice Warriors better be careful around me. I don't have any qualms about defending myself. And, I, as I have been taught, have Zero difference in how I treat women versus men.
Heck, even my mom taught me
Treat a lady like a lady, While she acts like a lady. If she wants to fight, fight to win....

I'm not perfect or that educated but one should treat others with respect and hopefully it will be returned, sometimes it won't be then adjust attitude as needed. I do not judge people I know , I'm sure your a fine example of homo sapien. Pretty sure I spelled that wrong. Much love have a great day !

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Ruttly Serious Thumper Offline Thumpers Rule Posts: 5497 Manteca , CA Gender:	Re: One Adam 12....... Reply #28 - 04/30/16 at 16:19:23 Wow Justin , I didn't mean to get you all wound up, do a shot or have a beer. I just need to know how you knew I am short and my dog it'is a chihuahua & Jack Russell mix. Tall table in deep nuts, this is great !!
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Reply #29 - 04/30/16 at 17:37:19

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 04/30/16 at 15:43:44:

I recently learned that IF I deem someone to be a hater, I can be abusive to them and I am Justified. Of course, I get to apply that label to anyone who disagrees with me.

When in doubt,.. make sh!t up...

... or,.. when you're on the indefensible side of an argument,... distort the opposition's point of view to be as stupid as your own.

I will give no respect to a racist, KKK member, Nazi, homophobe, sexist, or Isis member.
They are haters,.. and don't deserve my respect...
I don't apply that to anyone that disagrees with me, as you say.
I apply that to people that hate based on nonsense.

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