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Reply #15 - 03/24/16 at 21:17:10

Rat,

The United States dropped nuclear weapons on Japan killing hundreds thousand people in the blink of an eye. Strangely enough, Japanese are not strapping bombs to themselves and blowing up airports. American GIs slaughtered German Nazis in the 1940s and then divided their country up with their sworn enemies, the Russians. Today, Germans are not flying planes into buildings. In the 1960s and 70s, American GIs killed hundreds of thousands of Vietnamese. Today Vietnamese are not detonating bombs hidden backpacks.

Ask yourself this question: why not ?

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DesertRat Serious Thumper Offline I love rat bikes! Posts: 1569 Arizona	Re: Ya read this then share your thoughts..... Reply #16 - 03/24/16 at 21:20:55 You should ask yourself: why not? I will share with you this fact: We REBUILT everyone of those nations after going to war with them. It is a different beast with the middle east. We have raped and pillaged their countries for a 100+ years without anything in return.
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Reply #17 - 03/25/16 at 03:38:13

DesertRat wrote on 03/24/16 at 21:20:55:

You should ask yourself: why not?

I will share with you this fact:

We REBUILT everyone of those nations after going to war with them.

It is a different beast with the middle east. We have raped and pillaged their countries for a 100+ years without anything in return.

Goggle the monetary support we have lent that part of the world, rat.
Then try your statement again.

BTW, read about the Ottoman Empire as well, which was Muslim ( for the most part ).

Saw a bumper ( fender ) sticker on a BMW bike today.....
Said, War is not the answer.
True enuff.
But sometimes, its the only solution, sadly Sad

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Reply #18 - 03/25/16 at 04:06:00

DesertRat wrote on 03/24/16 at 21:20:55:

You should ask yourself: why not?

I will share with you this fact:

We REBUILT everyone of those nations after going to war with them.

It is a different beast with the middle east. We have raped and pillaged their countries for a 100+ years without anything in return.

We've spent billions over there.

The reason is Islam, that's the difference.

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Reply #19 - 03/25/16 at 05:51:47

And my govt., over years, and largely about controlling oil......even WW1 was largely about oil.....oh, and arms sales.

Mark, remember when you said that the US hadn't invaded any other country since WW2, and I linked a list of 50-ish?

I remember the conversation and the list, not all the names however and I'm not going to go find it. However, my guess is your definition of invade is a bit different than mine or most. Did we invade France on D-Day? (it's even commonly called the Normandy Invasion) iDid we invade Grenada?
In the sense you want to use the word, no we did not invade. Invade implies moving in and taking over. We went into France, fought a war and left. We did not invade Grenada. We went it, rescued some students and left.

You liberals, living in the comfy confines of safety, always characterize your nation based upon the few difficult moments that come from trying to be the moral beacon in an otherwise dark world. Life is a movie, it's not a snapshot. Take things in their entirety, not singular instances. Would you like to be remembered and characterized by a few dark moments in your past? Would it be fair to do that?

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Reply #20 - 03/25/16 at 08:36:31

DesertRat wrote on 03/24/16 at 19:09:06:

Mark, I'm just sharing HISTORY with you. It's written in books, and available on the internet if you prefer. Not looking to argue with you, just providing facts and additional research I've performed over the years trying to make sense of the senseless violence around me.

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Thanks, saves me typing.

Quote WM:
"You liberals, living in the comfy confines of safety..."

Well, in my lifetime, in those 'comfy confines':

* we've had 10,000 bombs (Catholic v Protestant).
* 7/7 attacks in London.
*my cousin (previously mentioned) had first-hand experience of a 'London bombing'.
*Heard numerous stories about when my dad's house was bombed, and also when my mother watched Coventry burn.

I won't mention my first-hand experience of N.Ireland, Israel, the Balkans (during the war), post-Ceausescu Romania straight after the revolution....too 'comfy' and 'confined' to be of worth, Mark....

"You liberals, living in the comfy confines of safety..." was written by someone 4-5000 miles away in a 'Top 10 wealthiest country'......worth remembering Roll Eyes

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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Ya read this then share your thoughts..... Reply #21 - 03/25/16 at 12:09:27 we've had 10,000 bombs (Catholic v Protestant). * 7/7 attacks in London. More to those events than are accepted by the masses.
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HovisPresley Serious Thumper Offline Good Vibrations! Posts: 991 Midlands, UK Gender:	Re: Ya read this then share your thoughts..... Reply #22 - 03/25/16 at 12:25:34 Oh, most definitely.
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pg Serious Thumper Offline Posts: 5274 In Transit	Re: Ya read this then share your thoughts..... Reply #23 - 03/25/16 at 15:31:26 HovisPresley wrote on 03/25/16 at 08:36:31: I won't mention my first-hand experience of N.Ireland, Israel, the Balkans (during the war), post-Ceausescu Romania straight after the revolution... If you care to elaborate I'm interested in hearing about some of your experiences. Best regards,
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Reply #24 - 03/25/16 at 15:49:58

raydawg wrote on 03/25/16 at 03:38:13:

Goggle the monetary support we have lent that part of the world, rat.
Then try your statement again.

The "monetary support" was paid to the dictators we put in place. Unlike the actual support, monetary and otherwise, we provided those post-war countries. HUGE difference.

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HovisPresley Serious Thumper Offline Good Vibrations! Posts: 991 Midlands, UK Gender:	Re: Ya read this then share your thoughts..... Reply #25 - 03/25/16 at 15:57:59 Quote WM; "We did not invade Grenada. We went it, rescued some students and left. " ......................................... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invasion_of_Grenada .......................................... PG, ask away by PM or new thread.
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Reply #26 - 03/26/16 at 09:04:57

uHovisPresley wrote on 03/25/16 at 08:36:31:

DesertRat wrote on 03/24/16 at 19:09:06:

Mark, I'm just sharing HISTORY with you. It's written in books, and available on the internet if you prefer. Not looking to argue with you, just providing facts and additional research I've performed over the years trying to make sense of the senseless violence around me.

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Thanks, saves me typing.

Quote WM:
"You liberals, living in the comfy confines of safety..."

Well, in my lifetime, in those 'comfy confines':

* we've had 10,000 bombs (Catholic v Protestant).
* 7/7 attacks in London.
*my cousin (previously mentioned) had first-hand experience of a 'London bombing'.
*Heard numerous stories about when my dad's house was bombed, and also when my mother watched Coventry burn.

I won't mention my first-hand experience of N.Ireland, Israel, the Balkans (during the war), post-Ceausescu Romania straight after the revolution....too 'comfy' and 'confined' to be of worth, Mark....

"You liberals, living in the comfy confines of safety..." was written by someone 4-5000 miles away in a 'Top 10 wealthiest country'......worth remembering Roll Eyes

So, let me get this straight: you've had all those things happen to you and yet you're still foolish enough to leave the doors open and let an unknown number of Islamic terrorist into The UK and encourage the US to do the same? A few of the Paris nightclub killers were in the wave of "refugees" and they've said more have gone into other countries, probably yours. What the hell is wrong with you?!

You have no problem blaming Christianity, if some wacho shoots up an abortion clinic once in a blue moon, but let dozens and dozens of scumbags murder innocents on a weeky, if not daily basis, right after shouting Allah Akbar and your position is its got nothing to do with Islam......?! That we shouldn't single out Muslims for greater scrutiny? Huh

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Reply #27 - 03/26/16 at 09:18:17

How much of your taxpayer money do you want to devote to surveilling 3.3 million people?...

Are you scared enough to pay an extra say 20% in taxes?... or should we just pile it onto the debt?... maybe take it away from the poor and the hungry... we definitely don't want to burden the rich with it... Undecided

Make it 30%... we need money for a wall, too... Grin

No wait,.. 40%.... Dawg wants a new Iraq war...

Meanwhile,.. don't restrict guns... we need them more than ever... Roll Eyes

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HovisPresley Serious Thumper Offline Good Vibrations! Posts: 991 Midlands, UK Gender:	Re: Ya read this then share your thoughts..... Reply #28 - 03/26/16 at 09:24:11 Quote WM; "So, let me get this straight: ......" ............................................................. You've got it a bit wonky, time for a new bubble in that spirit-level...
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DesertRat Serious Thumper Offline I love rat bikes! Posts: 1569 Arizona	Re: Ya read this then share your thoughts..... Reply #29 - 03/26/16 at 09:30:08 Mark, you need a RIDE, brother
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