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Reply #45 - 06/15/16 at 13:36:16
 
LostArtist wrote on 06/15/16 at 13:02:26:
it ain't cotton candy...


No it ain't. But it is a constitutionally protected right, along side your right to say what you want, worship who you want, be secured from unreasonably searches, not being compelled to give your goods or services to the government without compensation..... I think you get the picture. (Maybe)
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Reply #46 - 06/15/16 at 13:42:00
 
LostArtist wrote on 06/15/16 at 13:02:26:
it ain't cotton candy...



I can list what it ain't for days. That it's not cotton candy doesn't make it the GUN.  I've been in close proximity to several murderous guns and have yet to see one hop up and kill anyone. Can we please stay inside the realm of logic and just SAY why the people are dead? HE went in there and KILLED them. He also let blacks live. Had he Wanted to Kill everyone what he should have done was block the back door and throw gallon jugs of gas on the roof, and cover the front door from afar. Not sure he was alone.
And why Three hours for SWAT ?
How is that reasonable?
And Why did the FBI have this guy several times and they had to let it go?
Zacharius Mussoui?
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Reply #47 - 06/15/16 at 14:16:01
 
I know this sound strange, but, how bout those who talk smack about guns lead by EXAMPLE.
Hollywood, give up you bodyguards and guns.
Politicians, give up your armed detail.
And travel on commercial aircraft too with the rest of us.

If you do this, you will bolster your argument and show us you stand by your words.  

Well?
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Reply #48 - 06/15/16 at 14:42:51
 
The guy was reported to the FBI 2 or 3 times...
YET his employer kept him on as a security guard.
YET the state did not revoke his license.

And yet a toddler is on the no fly list.
For whom you have to buy a ticket for in advance with the air line.
And you don't find out till you arrive at the airport ready to go.
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Reply #49 - 06/15/16 at 14:54:19
 
verslagen1 wrote on 06/15/16 at 14:42:51:
The guy was reported to the FBI 2 or 3 times...
YET his employer kept him on as a security guard.
YET the state did not revoke his license.

And yet a toddler is on the no fly list.
For whom you have to buy a ticket for in advance with the air line.
And you don't find out till you arrive at the airport ready to go.



Eeeeek! A Safety Hater!

Does Seem a bit Past sucking at your job failure.
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Reply #50 - 06/15/16 at 14:55:04
 
....and,.. even if he had been on the no-fly list,... he would still be allowed to by as many guns as he wanted...
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Reply #51 - 06/15/16 at 15:14:02
 
Would you like to change that?
If your name is on the no fly list, should you be able to buy guns?
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Reply #52 - 06/15/16 at 15:23:38
 
I can't say I like the thought of constitutional rights being taken away with out a trial.

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Reply #53 - 06/15/16 at 15:33:42
 
BINGO...
People are not even notified that they Are on it. There is no avenue for relief that I am aware of.
People have No idea what it is Supposed to mean to Be an American.
All they have to do is start Accidentally putting afew names on it, suddenly Realizing that That scary person has GUNS at home and they Need a search warrant, confiscate, jail,,  
Take him off the list,
Add names, rinse, repeat

Eliminate guns in the hands of patriots.
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Reply #54 - 06/15/16 at 16:01:42
 
But it is good for the collective.....

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Reply #55 - 06/15/16 at 16:11:47
 
Actually, no, it's good for their masters, but not them. They are ConVinced that it is, but it's not.
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Reply #56 - 06/16/16 at 09:59:01
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 06/15/16 at 15:33:42:
BINGO...
People are not even notified that they Are on it. There is no avenue for relief that I am aware of.
People have No idea what it is Supposed to mean to Be an American.
All they have to do is start Accidentally putting a few names on it, suddenly Realizing that That scary person has GUNS at home and they Need a search warrant, confiscate, jail,,  
Take him off the list,
Add names, rinse, repeat

Eliminate guns in the hands of patriots.

Exactly!
If the process had judicial oversight, it would be acceptable.
It should be a transparent process that could be overruled by giving testimony to a known group.


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A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
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Reply #57 - 06/16/16 at 17:23:10
 
Serowbot wrote on 06/15/16 at 14:55:04:
....and,.. even if he had been on the no-fly list,... he would still be allowed to by as many guns as he wanted...
Roll Eyes



You haven't answered. Read my reply.
By now.
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