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By Jessica Chasmar - The Washington Times - Thursday, June 30, 2016
A political science professor at the University of Chicago says American universities are teeming with perpetually offended “delicate snowflakes” who are destroying free speech in academia.
“‘Safety,’ as it happens, is a magic word on campus,” Charles Lipson wrote in an essay for Real Clear Politics. “It has its own special meaning, well beyond legitimate concerns about robbery, sexual assaults, and coercive threats. Some students have stretched the term to mean ‘I feel unsafe because I disagree with your ideas. So shut up. Right now.’ “
“Today, dean-of-students offices are devoted to comforting delicate snowflakes and soothing their feelings. If that means stamping out others’ speech, too bad,” he continued. “The deans are typically helped by small bureaucracies with Orwellian titles such as ‘the Office for Diversity and Inclusion.’ The title is deceptive; these offices are ideologically driven. They are not about ‘including’ Chinese-Americans, Cuban-Americans, Jews who support Israel, or evangelical Christians who may feel themselves beleaguered minorities on campus. The diversity police have zero interest in encouraging diverse viewpoints. Instead, they are university-sponsored advocates for approved minorities, approved viewpoints, and approved grievances. Full stop.”
Mr. Lipson offered a five-step plan that he believes will resolve the “assault on free discussion” on college campuses. First, he asked that university leaderships show “some intellectual courage.”
“Their boards of trustees should demand to know if free speech is protected on their campuses, in principle and in practice. Then, they should hold the school administrators accountable for results,” he wrote. “Second, universities should tell students, beginning with their acceptance letters, that ‘our school believes in free speech, open debate, and diverse opinions. You will hear different views on controversial topics. You are urged to read, write, and develop your own views, but you may not suppress others.’ Stress that core value during orientation week. Urge students who seek shelter from intellectual challenges to go somewhere else.”
Step three included assigning a ranking administrator to free speech ambassador.
“He or she should make regular reports to the university president, faculty, and board, just as others do about gender discrimination, physical safety, and other issues,” Mr. Lipson wrote.
“Fourth, demand that student affairs offices stop suppressing basic academic freedoms and start supporting them. Begin by restoring the rightful meaning of ‘student safety.’ It shouldn’t be distorted to shield students from uncomfortable ideas,” he continued. “Finally, let students know that they have every right to protest peacefully. They have every right to hold their own events, opposing what others’ advocate. But they have no right to disrupt others, and they will be punished if they do. Stop coddling rabble-rousers who come to campus specifically to disrupt academic events, as they often do. Universities routinely ignore these problems, despite their corrosive effects.”
Mr. Lipson warned that the First Amendment is being “smothered in an avalanche of delicate snowflakes,” and if universities don’t act fast, they will fail at upholding their “basic mission of promoting the exchange of ideas, real learning, and innovative research.”
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Reply #1 - 07/02/16 at 09:40:04
 
"if universities don’t act fast, they will fail at upholding their “basic mission of promoting the exchange of ideas, real learning, and innovative research.”


I don't think that that has been the "basic mission" of most universities and colleges for a good long while. It isn't going to get fixed 'cause they don't think anything is broken.







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Reply #2 - 07/02/16 at 09:53:03
 
I disagree with the "Finally"... "They have every right to hold their own events, opposing what others’ advocate. But they have no right to disrupt others,"

...the rest,.. Yes...

Disruption is free speech too...
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Actually, no, it's not. I rent a venue to hold a gathering in and open the doors to those who would come join me and hear what I have to say, then coming in and disrupting is trespass on me and my free speech.
Disagree?
Rent, or gain access from whatever authority has jurisdiction, a place and express Your ideas and Explain WHY you disagree and build support for your ideas.

That's tolerance. And civilised. If it's not done that way then we live in the jungle. If it's done in a civilized manner then it's the Ideas that win, not muscle. So, let's behave like adults and discuss the issues and build support for one way or another in how to solve problems in society. Let's allow the People to choose which way society goes, not just a vocal and violent minority who would label people as bigots because, say, frinstance, they want to stop immigration, legal and otherwise, while America recovers economically and,we sort through the immigrants who are sworn to kill Christians and homos.

How do the left justify bringing people who are sworn Enemies of homosexuals into America? Do the left somehow believe that they won't kill them in America because it's against the law? It's not working out so well in Europe.
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Reply #4 - 07/02/16 at 10:20:01
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 07/02/16 at 10:14:00:
It's not working out so well in Europe.

It's not working here either... but ours are homegrown...

That’s the world today... you can't hide from it. Huh
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You might look more closely at exactly When the homegrown was transplanted.
Regardless of whether he was born in America or not, knowingly IMPORTING true bigots and religious zealots Sworn to bring Their Justice to those who Allah says must die is kinda hard to defend, innit?
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Serowbot wrote on 07/02/16 at 09:53:03:
Disruption is free speech too...


So you would condone the Klan peacefully disrupting a far left demonstration.....

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pg wrote on 07/02/16 at 13:56:35:
Serowbot wrote on 07/02/16 at 09:53:03:
Disruption is free speech too...


So you would condone the Klan peacefully disrupting a far left demonstration.....

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By Golly, I think we just saw a rather deft hypothetical example of the shoe slipping gently onto the Other Foot.

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Watch yourself he builds a good rat trap !
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Ruttly wrote on 07/02/16 at 14:24:02:
Watch yourself he builds a good rat trap !


There really is no justification for infringing or denying someones rights to freedom of speech.  

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Reply #10 - 07/02/16 at 15:09:38
 
Well, after Decades of compromise to satiate the left, the masses are waking up to the consequences for the choices and starting to want to do things more intelligently. The Left know that in the arena of ideas they are starting to lose. So, like other petty tyrants, they resort to violence. Only with this new left, and the New words, like
I don't Feel Safe, your ideas are scary, so, You must shut up
And if that is not enough,
YOU support Eeevil, so, I am Justified when I smash your face.

Well, actually, I see the agenda of the left as eeevil.. And if push comes to shove, I have a fist, too.

The idea that bringing people here who have SHOWN what they will do in Europe and somehow believe that they won't Do that here is just mind boggling.


I Do build good rat traps.  I use logic and observed reality and intellectual honesty and the people who are not well equipped find themselves unable to make points and get trapped.
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That was supposed to be a compliment Rev. Jog
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Reply #12 - 07/02/16 at 18:17:56
 
pg wrote on 07/02/16 at 13:56:35:
Serowbot wrote on 07/02/16 at 09:53:03:
Disruption is free speech too...


So you would condone the Klan peacefully disrupting a far left demonstration.....

Best regards,


I don't imagine there's a large contingent of KKK attending university,... but if there is, so be it...
I do imagine that if the KKK wanted to have a demonstration they would be met with some sizeable opposition...

Do you disagree with all protest?...
Students should welcome racist, hate speech with open arms?...
No thanks...
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Ruttly wrote on 07/02/16 at 16:27:24:
That was supposed to be a compliment Rev. Jog



Hmm,  well, sorry about that..Maybe I had your intentions figured wrong..and that's liable to show up somewhere else..
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The problem with rat traps is they don't only kill rats... Huh


Cryptic, huh?... Huh
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