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He seems like such a nice guy. Why would his own people kill him?*


*I, of course, was following JoG and assume I know part of the answer


--Steve

He did not want to sell oil in Dollars.  When he started trading oil for gold, that was the straw that broke the camels back.  

Best regards,

Yeah, guys, it's just shocking what a guy can find out IF he starts wondering just what is being Told to us. Can't connect the dots without First questioning the information. Now, will this information have Any impact on the Believers? How many times have we discovered that we are being lied to? Why not Question the narrative Before you take it in, hook line and sinker?

And how was it, Again, that Libya was on a List of countries that We would have to be militarily involved with , and the List is made Public not long after 9/11, by General Wesley Clarke, ???

Explain how that is possible? How many years Prior to actually getting involved are such decisions Made? And how is it that Libya was on a list Years Prior to the Reasons WHY we
Must take action
Even EXISTED?

And if anyone can see these things and Not suddenly feel sick for believing, well, I don't know how to help them.


Now, nobody needs to be Sherlock Holmes to understand that it is Not reasonable to believe that the REASON for military action comes Years AFTER the decision to get involved.


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I knew why, because I had been through the Pentagon right after 9/11. About ten days after 9/11, I went through the Pentagon and I saw Secretary Rumsfeld and Deputy Secretary Wolfowitz. I went downstairs just to say hello to some of the people on the Joint Staff who used to work for me, and one of the generals called me in. He said, “Sir, you’ve got to come in and talk to me a second.” I said, “Well, you’re too busy.” He said, “No, no.” He says, “We’ve made the decision we’re going to war with Iraq.” This was on or about the 20th of September. I said, “We’re going to war with Iraq? Why?” He said, “I don’t know.” He said, “I guess they don’t know what else to do.” So I said, “Well, did they find some information connecting Saddam to al-Qaeda?” He said, “No, no.” He says, “There’s nothing new that way. They just made the decision to go to war with Iraq.” He said, “I guess it’s like we don’t know what to do about terrorists, but we’ve got a good military and we can take down governments.” And he said, “I guess if the only tool you have is a hammer, every problem has to look like a nail.”

So I came back to see him a few weeks later, and by that time we were bombing in Afghanistan. I said, “Are we still going to war with Iraq?” And he said, “Oh, it’s worse than that.” He reached over on his desk. He picked up a piece of paper. And he said, “I just got this down from upstairs” -- meaning the Secretary of Defense’s office -- “today.” And he said, “This is a memo that describes how we’re going to take out seven countries in five years, starting with Iraq, and then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and, finishing off, Iran.” I said, “Is it classified?” He said, “Yes, sir.” I said, “Well, don’t show it to me.” And I saw him a year or so ago, and I said, “You remember that?” He said, “Sir, I didn’t show you that memo! I didn’t show it to you!”


Is Clarke a liar? Crazy?
Now, will anyone else at least entertain the idea that Stephens was left hanging out to dry because he didn't want to go along with arming the enemy?

And WHY, if the Goal is to Benefit the People of Libya would you Bomb the irrigation system? We have the best, laser guided bombs and Can't Not Blow something like that up?
If you don't question these things, why not?

It would take a lot of study to really have an idea of what it was actually like to live in Libya, how well Qaddafi's system worked,  and how many liberties the people actually had. With that being said, he doesn't sound so evil, now does he?

Perhaps our government and the media have been deceiving us from time to time, and some of our "evil" enemies are not quite as dastardly as they are popularly portrayed. I bet it's been done by the lot of nations throughout history. Find something to wage war about and make everyone believe that the enemy is more evil than Satan himself just to keep the people patriotic and happy to fight. I'd say even individuals do it. Go have a dispute with somebody and see if you don't catch yourself thinking that the other guy is pure evil. See if the other guy doesn't act the same. Two people in a fight will smear each other so that you don't know who to believe. Am I right? When people get wise to this, we'll live in a better world, won't we?