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Re: Broken bolt in the head
Reply #30 - 07/15/16 at 22:06:49
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 07/13/16 at 13:10:55:
Once it's out I wish you would post a picture.
BEFORE you haul it off and spend money.
If you'll listen I might save you some money.



Here you go. I haven't pulled the motor yet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4ZRc0smdbA&feature=youtu.be



In case it interests you, we actually do have a drill press. We've just never really used it.  Roll Eyes
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Reply #31 - 07/16/16 at 18:54:21
 
OK fellers !  Wink

Here is a question I'm sure somebody with an old head laying around can assure !!  

What if  a person was to move over a half inch from the original bolt holes and make a NEW SET OF HOLES in the same circle ...   Roll Eyes
There ain't nothing says you can't ...  Wink

So here we go :  
1.   Draw a circle on the surface where the original holes are now .
2.   Scribe a "X" 3/8 inch right or left of the original holes.
3.   Drill a new hole for a 12mm or 5/16" tap
4.   Tap the hole (use plenty of oil) and go nice and slow.
5.   Clean the hole with ??? starting fluid ???
6.   Insert a stud coated with thread lock
7.   Walk away for a day !  Smiley

Now the question is .... (drum roll please )   :   how deep can you drill the new hole/studs ?  Huh

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Reply #32 - 07/16/16 at 18:55:40
 
Someone just sliced one up..
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Reply #33 - 07/16/16 at 19:01:57
 
Or just measure the original hole depth !  Grin

That broken easy-out really makes things difficult for the original holes .
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Reply #34 - 07/16/16 at 20:36:11
 
Someone told me about using what he called a "carbon" bit (carbide??? Huh). Said they cost 20-something dollars apiece. This person ran an auto body shop. I told him about the situation. He said that after a few turns of the bit, the easy-out would shatter.

Anyone aware of this stuff?

How about a diamond coated drill bit??? A masonry bit???
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Reply #35 - 07/16/16 at 22:09:12
 
Started reading about three pages ago. I HAD suggestions on how to solve the problem. You ignored everything everyone told you.
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Reply #36 - 07/16/16 at 22:11:29
 
So you have nothing else to say??? Okay... I'l figure it out myself then. Why did I go through the trouble to shoot you a video?
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Re: Broken bolt in the head
Reply #37 - 07/16/16 at 22:14:20
 
cheapnewb24 wrote on 07/15/16 at 22:06:49:
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 07/13/16 at 13:10:55:
Once it's out I wish you would post a picture.
BEFORE you haul it off and spend money.
If you'll listen I might save you some money.



Here you go. I haven't pulled the motor yet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4ZRc0smdbA&feature=youtu.be


@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@$@@$@$@@@@@



I was interested,,


In case it interests you, we actually do have a drill press. We've just never really used it.  Roll Eyes



Dave and I spent quite some time...
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Reply #38 - 07/16/16 at 22:23:10
 
Huh Huh???

Wondering why we've never hooked up that old drill press we got from Tractor Supply Company?

Hey, I've got a Tig welder and plasma cutter, too. Never even tried them that I know of. Seems like things around here get bought and never used. Funny thing they'll break the first time they're used and the warranty will be run out.. Grin Dad bought a $20000 diesel dually truck, and uses it for a big doorstop... Literally! Grin Roll Eyes He blocks the door to keep away thieves. He hardly even drives it enough to keep the battery charged. That's my life.  Grin Roll Eyes Insane!

Tools locked up where they're hard to get to. You won't believe the degree of disorganization and backwardness there is around here. Why am I not a mechanic by now? Why have I gone years letting cars, trucks, and expensive equipment rot down in front of me? I think I've at least partly explained it. You can't work in a disorganized mess.
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Re: Broken bolt in the head
Reply #39 - 07/16/16 at 22:39:10
 
With all that said, I could probably hook up the drill press, hope it works, and hope I can find something to hold the head with. Undecided

Or is that just a dumb idea?

Reading backwards, Ed's idea about welding on a nut is interesting. But then... If the bolt head broke in the first place, who's to say it would ever have come loose?
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Re: Broken bolt in the head
Reply #40 - 07/16/16 at 22:42:41
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 07/16/16 at 22:14:20:
cheapnewb24 wrote on 07/15/16 at 22:06:49:
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 07/13/16 at 13:10:55:
Once it's out I wish you would post a picture.
BEFORE you haul it off and spend money.
If you'll listen I might save you some money.



Here you go. I haven't pulled the motor yet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4ZRc0smdbA&feature=youtu.be


@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@$@@$@$@@@@@



I was interested,,


In case it interests you, we actually do have a drill press. We've just never really used it.  Roll Eyes



Dave and I spent quite some time...



What's all the @ and $ for ?


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Re: Broken bolt in the head
Reply #41 - 07/17/16 at 12:52:25
 
Here's something interesting https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uwz7BhAWZE

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Re: Broken bolt in the head
Reply #42 - 07/17/16 at 13:40:07
 
Sooooo,... it looks like, if you can get it lined up in a drill press, you just go at it with everything you got until it gives...
Grin...
The tricky bit, is getting it lined up...
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Re: Broken bolt in the head
Reply #43 - 07/17/16 at 14:15:32
 
Got any other suggestions? Try to find a good machine shop locally? Maybe ship the head out for repair in a specialized shop? Or find a used head that isn't crazy expensive?

Until what gives? The problem? Is funny a good thing? Or are you laughing because you're being skeptical?

Here's an example of a specialized service. http://brokentap.com/services.html
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Re: Broken bolt in the head
Reply #44 - 07/17/16 at 17:19:47
 
I'd be thinking about using the spark erosion service if it were mine. Doesn't look like the melted bit is too bad and not in a critical area so maybe it'll be ok. You sure made a lot of extra work for yourself.
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