I can think of several states where this would not fly.    (California, and Massachusetts for example...)

LOLOL.   Carried  After 1971, when  Minn   adopted the, (then new carry law),  which was,  ‘How  Much Do you Grease, the  Local  Sheriff”.
(Before 1971,  Carry a Firearm, concealed or not, was Not a  Issue.
The,  ‘PC’,  people,  Made it a  Issue)

  (Who does  NOT,  understand,   ‘CONCEALED CARRY” ?)

After the,  ’Newer  Law’, was adopted,   I thought I should be,  Legal.
So  Got a  MN  CC Permit.

Drive to  AZ,  and  Pass through  Many States.
Where,  (I Don’t Know), I  may/may not,  have  permission.
  (Don’t Care)
But when I get to AZ, I do.

So   Nation  Wide.   YES.

Couple of years ago,  had to drive from AZ to Calf.
AZ, was  Legal.    Calf, was not.

(Rather be  Judged by 12,  then buried by one)

If  Calf, (and the Like States),  want to   Eliminate,   FREEDOM.
So Be it.    I don’t, (and never will),  live in one of those States.

So, the time comes, when have to go to Calf  again?
  Don’t  Care!

Well in my opinion the won't fly in some states is my favorite part. The right to bear arms is just that a right not a privilege and in my admittedly bias opinion should be nationally recognized. If I'm safe to drive a motor vehicle in California with my PA. drivers license then why isn't my carry license reciprocated equally. If I'm not a psychopath murderer here why would I be anywhere else. This is coming from someone who was army infantry,  current corrections officer, and member of the CERT team. So again admittedly very bias.

old.indian wrote on 12/06/16 at 19:00:51:


Yea, I'm throwing the Bull$hit flag indian. I searched very hard time finding stories about a cop accidentally shot by a legally armed citizen who had stepped into a situation. I found a bunch about highly trained professional officers shooting each other however.

Say what you want about Zimmerman, but given all the cops shot down in cold blood, consider this: Zimmerman's still walking around and a young punk on his way to being a career criminal isn't.

In St. Louis this yesr, we've 3 cops shot, 2 killed, 1 paralyzed for life. When one of those stories hits the news, I always think Darrin Wilson and his family are sure glad he's alive because he defended himself against Michael Brown.

Point is, lets live in Realsville.....People who live the in states with carry laws aren't stepping over the dead bodies of innocent civilians on their to work in the morning. The situation you've describing is rare, certainly rare enough not to delete the 2nd amendment over.

One day, perhaps soon, there will be an interesting court case before the Supreme Court about carry laws.

Look at the recent case which effectively legalized gay marriage or as mentioned, look at driver's licenses. States can have different laws, but when an issue is deemed a national right so to speak, all states must be on the same page.

someone will be arrested or fined for carrying in a state with carry laws different from his state. the argument before the court will be the 2nd amendment is a federal issue and all states must recognize the law from another state. This is how gay marriage is 'legal' now in all states.

now, the liberals will howl and cry, but what's fair for the goose is fair for the gander as they say.

Cops telling someone to
Stay in the car
Is Advice. They are not your daddy. Calling the cops and reporting suspicious activity doesn't subjugate the citizen. The cop doesn't become the commanding officer.
If I call the fire department to report a fire, am I not allowed to pick up a hose and do what I can?
What makes a cop so God like? They weren't born with a badge and a gun. They were kids in school, and chose a career. They're Just people, and Subject to error.
What if he had obeyed and the punk slipped away and wound up doing something really bad to someone who didn't have a gun?

A quick look at how the media covered Jefferson and the facts that eventually cleared the cop make it evident to me that racial division and making armed citizens look dangerous are goals of the media.
The facts about what happened when Mike Brown was killed were readily available, but the media busied themselves quoting
Witnesses who saw what cameras and evidence didn't support.
Mike Brown was a thug and got killed. The mess in Jefferson was a contrived bunch of crap. Professional protesters, any objective analysis will see the connections, but only after the
Appreciation for the Free and Objective Media
is dissolved after coming to grips with the fact that it doesn't exist. There is an agenda that goes beyond market share.

Gee ,what are the odds?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eZVv2AOCnaA

Since the court has ruled that the police are not constitutionally bound to protect us, just exactly who is my protector?
Since the beginning of time people have been killing and being killed. Those who are able to protect themselves do. Holding a hand out, crying out, No, please don't as the assailant pulls the trigger isn't a good plan.
I don't carry, locally, but I'm sure thinking about what I should have with me when I'm travelling, alone, on the bike.
I Do, Always, have a lock blade knife sitting parallel to my billfold with a leather fob I can grab. Usually I can have it out and open in seconds. And, yes, I have used a knife twice. Once to ward off an attack and once to End an attack..
I'll bet he never started another fight.