I agree with everything you just said, where we diverge is that I don't believe that driving is a right.

I'm reading a book. It reminded me of our conversation. Here's an excerpt:

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--Steve

JOG - moral just sensible people do not drive drunk, text while driving or perform surgery they haven't been trained for.  Yet it happens a lot (The third is the abortion thing I will avoid for the moment).  Repeat offenders of the DUI type are in every town and province. Your anarchism is a society that will not function at all, as every time a car taps yours will you stop them and , with your over the top right to carry view, shoot them.  Again, since you gun nuts are nuts: the constitutional right is to bear arms, in a well organized militia (Think Minutemen).  Thus many home had weapons but few carried them except when, practicing under the Militia Format.  Those living closer to the first "Red Menace" did keep their firearms closer to hand when in the fields or, travelling to town.  A century later,  in the gunslinger old west, a small minority wore or carried guns in town.

Trippah wrote on 02/04/17 at 08:12:14:

" ...  sensible people do not drive drunk, text   ..........  

Of   Course NOT.    Just as:
“ every time a car taps yours will  you stop them and , with your over the top right to carry view, shoot them “

Oh  Yea,  what has happened, in all those  States, have enacted, ’Shall’, Issue laws.  
Did the Crime rate go up ?
Or, did it go,  DOWN ?

I think it was the earliest town, in the USA, that,  ‘Banned’  a handgun,  while in town.
It was enlisted, because a group of people,  constantly came into town, got drunk, and shot up the place.

After the ban was in place, the Honest folk, dropped their handguns off at the sheriff’s office, and on their way out of town, picked them back up again.
Yet the, ‘criminals’, ignored the law, and continued to carry handguns in town, openly defying the law.
 (Didn’t work then, don’t work now)

And it was a early example of, ’news’, Fabricating.   Two papers in town, and both would report the, same, skirmishes, (Their were Many  before the OK  Corral), in  two  completely different ways.   (Both Sides)
Also Behan,  was widely suspected, of taking bribes, from the  Criminals.  And  giving bribes, to gain his  Power.

Some may know,   (Bot, your the closest to this town)
It is what  predicated the,  ‘Fight at the OK Corral”.


  “  few carried them  “   “ old west, a small minority wore or carried guns in town “
Those two statements are completely false.  and a  study of, ‘real’  history will show that.

   “since you gun nuts are nuts”
You bet,  I  am a,   ‘Gun  Nut’,   and proud of it.
Just the same, as someone, who hits a little ball, with a club, count how many times they hit it until it falls into a hole in the ground.
They would be called,  “Golf  Nuts”.  (Who I think,  are Nuts,  but I don’t strive to tell lies about them, or ‘ban’ their Clubs)

Clubs kill more people than firearms. (And don’t ’spin’, and come up with, peaches & oranges, comparisons)
And the totally  BS  comparisons to other nations, that are 10 + times older than the USA.
(This Ain’t,  Star-Trek)  Some day, we will get their, but  NOT  today !

 “ well organized militia “ (or  Regulated)
Understand what that word meant, in 1776 (+/-)
 It was that, that town/area,  the  Citizens, all had the Same, caliber firearm, so they could Share the round balls.

An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life. - Robert Heinlein


--Steve

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...but you do need a license... not required by Fed's but States...

I suppose some state could drop the requirement if they wanted, but none have so far...
State's rights.. ain't it a pisser...