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Reply #15 - 01/25/17 at 09:53:21
 
and of course we are all hypocrites on here! Sew being the chief among us. The rest of us fall in line under that.

however, everyone should commit to explaining why their hypocrisy is slightly less hypocritical in the next guys hypocrisy!

for example you could say I'm being hypocritical when I complained about Obama's use of executive actions yet I favor Trump's. You could make that charge. I could refute that by saying that so far most of his actions have been to reverse previous executive actions, his other actions have been done in the same manner Obama did which is to circumvent Congress.  One other major difference I would say about Trump is he seems to have more people behind his executive actions that Obama did. But that just might be my impression.
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Reply #16 - 01/25/17 at 10:02:50
 
WebsterMark wrote on 01/25/17 at 09:49:09:
I already know what his tax returns are going to show. He didn't pay a lot of taxes because he used lawyers to find the various loopholes. Probably has some income coming out of Russia or other areas of the world that we would call questionable. Probably had dealings with celebrities and politicians  that they would rather not be made public which might be the real reason he stonewalling.  i'm not sure there's anything on his tax return that would make me object to him. if someone could show beyond a shadow of a doubt that he knowingly and willingly withheld information to pay a substantial amount fewer taxes, that might be a problem.


So you'd be cool with him accepting loans from russia? (that's the rumor anyway - his credit is pretty well shot here in the US, that's no secret.)  To me, that signals a huge problem and conflict of interest.  It's no different than taking a loan from Iraq.

The fact is, he IS willingly withholding information that could potentially show his conflicts.  What other reason is there to not release them?

As to what he paid in taxes?  I honestly don't care - if he played within the confines of the tax code - that's completely legal and good on him.  Look at Steve Jobs - he drew a salary of $1 from Apple.  His stocks in Apple was where he made his money and paid pennies in taxes...

Sorry, this smells of deliberate concealment.....
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Reply #17 - 01/25/17 at 11:10:12
 
T And T Garage wrote on 01/25/17 at 10:02:50:
WebsterMark wrote on 01/25/17 at 09:49:09:
I already know what his tax returns are going to show. He didn't pay a lot of taxes because he used lawyers to find the various loopholes. Probably has some income coming out of Russia or other areas of the world that we would call questionable. Probably had dealings with celebrities and politicians  that they would rather not be made public which might be the real reason he stonewalling.  i'm not sure there's anything on his tax return that would make me object to him. if someone could show beyond a shadow of a doubt that he knowingly and willingly withheld information to pay a substantial amount fewer taxes, that might be a problem.


So you'd be cool with him accepting loans from russia? (that's the rumor anyway - his credit is pretty well shot here in the US, that's no secret.)  To me, that signals a huge problem and conflict of interest.  It's no different than taking a loan from Iraq.

The fact is, he IS willingly withholding information that could potentially show his conflicts.  What other reason is there to not release them?

As to what he paid in taxes?  I honestly don't care - if he played within the confines of the tax code - that's completely legal and good on him.  Look at Steve Jobs - he drew a salary of $1 from Apple.  His stocks in Apple was where he made his money and paid pennies in taxes...

Sorry, this smells of deliberate concealment.....


I am pretty sure we already covered the reason to not disclose your taxes during an audit, but you seem to not except that reasoning.  But, just because you don't except it, because you yourself are wearing partisan glasses, doesn't make it any less valid.

Oh an no I don't think you are 90, i called him your boy b/c he is a democrat, and I made the leap of faith that you probably have a man crush on him.
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Reply #18 - 01/25/17 at 11:34:15
 
Joer0952 wrote on 01/25/17 at 11:10:12:
I am pretty sure we already covered the reason to not disclose your taxes during an audit, but you seem to not except that reasoning.  But, just because you don't except it, because you yourself are wearing partisan glasses, doesn't make it any less valid.

Oh an no I don't think you are 90, i called him your boy b/c he is a democrat, and I made the leap of faith that you probably have a man crush on him.



SMH - really?  A man crush?  Wow - um, exactly how old are you??  LOL

I see that you don't read any of my other posts.  I just gave trump props for going after big pharma.  BTW, I'm not the one calling out others simply because they're a republican.  You seem to have a problem with liberals. Oh well, your loss..

Since you have such a hate for us, I'll bet when you retire (if you're not already) that you won't accept that terrible democrat-produced medicare, huh?  Yeah, the liberals have done nothing but hurt the country, right?  LOL
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Reply #19 - 01/25/17 at 11:56:52
 
T And T Garage wrote on 01/25/17 at 11:34:15:
Joer0952 wrote on 01/25/17 at 11:10:12:
I am pretty sure we already covered the reason to not disclose your taxes during an audit, but you seem to not except that reasoning.  But, just because you don't except it, because you yourself are wearing partisan glasses, doesn't make it any less valid.

Oh an no I don't think you are 90, i called him your boy b/c he is a democrat, and I made the leap of faith that you probably have a man crush on him.



SMH - really?  A man crush?  Wow - um, exactly how old are you??  LOL

I see that you don't read any of my other posts.  I just gave trump props for going after big pharma.  BTW, I'm not the one calling out others simply because they're a republican.  You seem to have a problem with liberals. Oh well, your loss..

Since you have such a hate for us, I'll bet when you retire (if you're not already) that you won't accept that terrible democrat-produced medicare, huh?  Yeah, the liberals have done nothing but hurt the country, right?  LOL


man crush was just an attempt to inject humor.  No I don't hate liberals I just think more often their views are misguided and they cater to peoples emotions and neglect any assemblance of logic and reason.  I have a long time till I retire so there is no way to know what will be available to me  then, but since I pay social security if its still available I guess I should take advantage of it, well at least in part.
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Reply #20 - 01/26/17 at 09:53:43
 
The issue of income taxes being made public is simply to reveal any conflicts of interest.  Judges recuse themselves if they have a conflict of Interest, shouldn't other decision makers.      However, income taxes are private and should not be required.   How else to judge, hmmm?
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Reply #21 - 01/26/17 at 09:55:11
 
spot of humor.  Bumper sticker on a michican plated car.  Voting is like driving  R is for going backwards  D is for going forward. Roll Eyes
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Reply #22 - 01/26/17 at 18:49:57
 
T And T Garage wrote on 01/25/17 at 10:02:50:
" ... Sorry, this smells of deliberate concealment.....

Still want,  want to see Al  Frankin’s   Taxes,
(IF, Trump publishes his,  Frankin should ALSO !!!!!!!

Still waiting to know, how one becomes a  Millionaire,
from, Deeply In Debt.

For doing,  NOTHING !!!!!!!!
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Which is More TRUE, today, than yesterday.('06, S-40, Stock) well, mostly .
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Reply #23 - 01/26/17 at 19:07:46
 
Trippah wrote on 01/26/17 at 09:55:11:
spot of humor.  Bumper sticker on a michican plated car.  Voting is like driving  R is for going backwards  D is for going forward. Roll Eyes



D is for Delusion. The democrats have been running Detroit for a few years..  If THAT'S what going forward is, you can have it. Howzabout  Chicago?
I don't Know of a place where bubs have been running things for decades that suck like that.
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Reply #24 - 01/26/17 at 19:37:55
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 01/26/17 at 19:07:46:
" ... The democrats have been running Detroit for a few years..  If THAT'S what going forward is, you can have it. Howzabout  Chicago?
I don't Know of a place where bubs have been running things for decades that suck like that.

‘Gun  Control”

Works   SO  WELL.

 And  Chicago,  Proven it  !!!!!!

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Reply #25 - 01/26/17 at 20:16:12
 
Sorry, but Chicago is not a gun control utopia, it is an NRA utopia where anyone can get a gun since there are millions available (legal, illegal, stolen) all for a toke or a bag.  really, most of the killings are gang related, either killing each other off or the occasional bystander.  It really is the by product of a intentional ghetoizing of a population and denying them (and truly themselves after several generations) of any hope of a productive job.  15 yr olds get prego so they can have status, the boys commit as much crime as possible while still juvies knowing they will only spend a few years at camp.  Both parties helped create this because of our racist attitudes.  U wold have to level the ghettos and disgtribute that population among the rest of the nation so they can learn self esteem, work and study skills. What do you think the odds are of that happening? Cheesy
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Reply #26 - 01/27/17 at 09:11:03
 
LMAO!!  I just love the ignorant fools that comment on Chicago and have absolutely no clue.

Hey there fellas, does the term "per capita" mean anything to you?

Once again, the fear mongering right just throws out "look at Chicago" as a battle cry for more guns.... pathetic.

Yes, even one killing is too many, but all the talk about my city is nothing but fear mongering and pot stirring.

The fact is, Chicago doesn't even break the top 10 in per capita murder rate....  

https://www.neighborhoodscout.com/top-lists/highest-murder-rate-cities/

Whaaaa whaaaaaaa.....

But yeah, keep up the great work on scaring the mindless right wingers away from Chicago - we don't want them here anyway.
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Reply #27 - 01/27/17 at 18:32:41
 
T And T Garage wrote on 01/27/17 at 09:11:03:
" ...But yeah, keep up the great work on scaring the mindless right wingers away from Chicago - we don't want them here anyway.


Don't worry,  won't be going their any more.
  (have been their 3 times)
  Safer walking the Streets in  Baghdad,  than  Chicago  IL.
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Reply #28 - 01/27/17 at 18:47:42
 
T And T Garage wrote on 01/27/17 at 09:11:03:
LMAO!!  I just love the ignorant fools that comment on Chicago and have absolutely no clue.

Of Course,   (Altgeld Gardens),  has  Nothing to do with Chicago.
Just like, (E Eh Crump Blvd / S 4th St) in TN has  nothing to do with,  Memphis TN.
Just like, (Independence Ave / Prospect Ave) in  MO. has nothing to do with,  Kansas  MO.
Just like  N. Mpls, has nothing to do with the City of Mpls.

Keep,  ‘Spinning’,    LOLOOLOLOLOLO


Think their is a  Job  Opening at  CNN,
I heard it pays  15.00 a  hour !

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Reply #29 - 01/27/17 at 22:29:39
 
You take such comfort knowing Chicago is not the worst. Laugh, pretend we are ignorant of what is happening. Six shot in a restaurant,, gathered to remember someone killed the day before,, whatever,,
Chicago is Bad, but since there are worse places, you laugh and shrug.. and the NRA is to blame,, uh huhh..
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