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Reply #30 - 01/28/17 at 06:28:09
 
T And T Garage wrote on 01/27/17 at 09:11:03:
LMAO!!  I just love the ignorant fools that comment on Chicago and have absolutely no clue.

Hey there fellas, does the term "per capita" mean anything to you?

Once again, the fear mongering right just throws out "look at Chicago" as a battle cry for more guns.... pathetic.

Yes, even one killing is too many, but all the talk about my city is nothing but fear mongering and pot stirring.

The fact is, Chicago doesn't even break the top 10 in per capita murder rate....  

https://www.neighborhoodscout.com/top-lists/highest-murder-rate-cities/

Whaaaa whaaaaaaa.....

But yeah, keep up the great work on scaring the mindless right wingers away from Chicago - we don't want them here anyway.


Your right while Chicago is #1 in total murders it indeed is not # 1 per capita.  It is actually 18 of 20.  Oddly, do you know what else is 18 of 20?  The number of Democrat mayors in the top 20.  Coincidence, I think not.
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Reply #31 - 01/28/17 at 16:23:07
 
T And T Garage wrote on 01/27/17 at 09:11:03:
LMAO!!  I just love the ignorant fools that comment on Chicago and have absolutely no clue.


Yep,   25 + years ago,  Morton Grove IL,
 BANNED  ALL   HANDGUNS.
Result:  crime went  UP   !!!!!!!!

Jut after, another  city, in another State.
(suburb of a bigger City, just like M.G. is of  Chicago)
REQUIRES, ALL,  Heads of households to, OWN  a  GUN.
Result:   Crime Went  DOWN.

Well as told,   (many times),  ‘Observed Reality’,
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Reply #32 - 01/30/17 at 06:49:31
 
MnSpring wrote on 01/28/17 at 16:23:07:
[color=#0000ff]T And T Garage wrote on 01/27/17 at 09:11:03:
LMAO!!  I just love the ignorant fools that comment on Chicago and have absolutely no clue.


Yep,   25 + years ago,  Morton Grove IL,
 BANNED  ALL   HANDGUNS.
Result:  crime went  UP   !!!!!!!!

Jut after, another  city, in another State.
(suburb of a bigger City, just like M.G. is of  Chicago)
REQUIRES, ALL,  Heads of households to, OWN  a  GUN.
Result:   Crime Went  DOWN.

Well as told,   (many times),  ‘Observed Reality’,
is Not  ‘Really’,
‘Real.’.

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Thanks for displaying the ignorance I talked about.

Where did I ever say that crime has not gone up?

Try to pay attention, huh?   lol
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Reply #33 - 01/30/17 at 06:51:57
 
MnSpring wrote on 01/27/17 at 18:32:41:
T And T Garage wrote on 01/27/17 at 09:11:03:
" ...But yeah, keep up the great work on scaring the mindless right wingers away from Chicago - we don't want them here anyway.


Don't worry,  won't be going their any more.
  (have been their 3 times)
  Safer walking the Streets in  Baghdad,  than  Chicago  IL.



LOL, no skin off my taint.  BTW, you may want to learn the difference between 'their" and "there" - you won't look so stupid....
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Reply #34 - 01/30/17 at 06:57:34
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 01/27/17 at 22:29:39:
You take such comfort knowing Chicago is not the worst. Laugh, pretend we are ignorant of what is happening. Six shot in a restaurant,, gathered to remember someone killed the day before,, whatever,,
Chicago is Bad, but since there are worse places, you laugh and shrug.. and the NRA is to blame,, uh huhh..



Well then, I guess per capita  numbers mean nothing, huh?

Where did I blame the NRA?  Where did I "shrug"?

Nope, you're just being led around by the nose by the pot-stirring faux newz "reporters".

Good luck with your reality.

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Reply #35 - 01/30/17 at 07:17:38
 
T And T Garage wrote on 01/30/17 at 06:51:57:
MnSpring wrote on 01/27/17 at 18:32:41:
T And T Garage wrote on 01/27/17 at 09:11:03:
" ...But yeah, keep up the great work on scaring the mindless right wingers away from Chicago - we don't want them here anyway.


Don't worry,  won't be going their any more.
  (have been their 3 times)
  Safer walking the Streets in  Baghdad,  than  Chicago  IL.



LOL, no skin off my taint.  BTW, you may want to learn the difference between 'their" and "there" - you won't look so stupid....


I love when people have so little to say that they evoke the grammar police nuclear option.  So, what do you have to say about the overwhelmingly democratic mayors that govern these cities?
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Reply #36 - 01/30/17 at 07:38:18
 
Joer0952 wrote on 01/30/17 at 07:17:38:
T And T Garage wrote on 01/30/17 at 06:51:57:
MnSpring wrote on 01/27/17 at 18:32:41:
[color=#0000ff]T And T Garage wrote on 01/27/17 at 09:11:03:
" ...But yeah, keep up the great work on scaring the mindless right wingers away from Chicago - we don't want them here anyway.


Don't worry,  won't be going their any more.
  (have been their 3 times)
  Safer walking the Streets in  Baghdad,  than  Chicago  IL.



LOL, no skin off my taint.  BTW, you may want to learn the difference between 'their" and "there" - you won't look so stupid....


I love when people have so little to say that they evoke the grammar police nuclear option.  So, what do you have to say about the overwhelmingly democratic mayors that govern these cities?
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Oh dear, I'm so sorry for not responding to you....smh

I have nothing to say about that, except that it's terrible.  There is ZERO defense of it.  Again, try to stay on point - which was - Chicago is a whipping post for the fear mongering right.  That's ALL I said.

Yeah, there's clearly a problem with illegal guns and murder in all the cities on the list.  But I find it odd that guys like you point out that it's the democrats fault in those cities - but give no credit to, say, the democratic mayor of NY where murder and violence is down....

Typical I guess.
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Reply #37 - 01/30/17 at 08:29:03
 
Crime is down in NY not because of the current Democrat mayor, its b/c we had a republican mayor (Rudolph Giuliani) that took over a crime ridden city from a democrat (David Dinkins) and went along way in fixing the city.  If given enough time Bill De blasio  will screw it up again, hopefully he will lose this year and it will be a non issue though.  
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Reply #38 - 01/30/17 at 08:34:48
 
Joer0952 wrote on 01/30/17 at 08:29:03:
Crime is down in NY not because of the current Democrat mayor, its b/c we had a republican mayor (Rudolph Giuliani) that took over a crime ridden city from a democrat (David Dinkins) and went along way in fixing the city.  If given enough time Bill De blasio  will screw it up again, hopefully he will lose this year and it will be a non issue though.  



LMAO - oh.... ok.  He's only been in for 3 years.....
Again - typical response.  Ignorance is your bliss I see.
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Reply #39 - 01/30/17 at 08:42:19
 
T And T Garage wrote on 01/30/17 at 08:34:48:
Joer0952 wrote on 01/30/17 at 08:29:03:
Crime is down in NY not because of the current Democrat mayor, its b/c we had a republican mayor (Rudolph Giuliani) that took over a crime ridden city from a democrat (David Dinkins) and went along way in fixing the city.  If given enough time Bill De blasio  will screw it up again, hopefully he will lose this year and it will be a non issue though.  



LMAO - oh.... ok.  He's only been in for 3 years.....
Again - typical response.  Ignorance is your bliss I see.


Idk where you live, but I spent my entire life living in NYC so I think I know a little more about the topic them you do.  Look it up it is all factual.  Rudolph Giuliani is the one who cleaned up NYC, you can try to say I am ignorant, but it is a fact and if you deny it you are ignorant sir.
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Reply #40 - 01/30/17 at 09:00:56
 
Joer0952 wrote on 01/30/17 at 08:42:19:
T And T Garage wrote on 01/30/17 at 08:34:48:
[color=#0000ff]Joer0952 wrote on 01/30/17 at 08:29:03:
Crime is down in NY not because of the current Democrat mayor, its b/c we had a republican mayor (Rudolph Giuliani) that took over a crime ridden city from a democrat (David Dinkins) and went along way in fixing the city.  If given enough time Bill De blasio  will screw it up again, hopefully he will lose this year and it will be a non issue though.  



LMAO - oh.... ok.  He's only been in for 3 years.....
Again - typical response.  Ignorance is your bliss I see.


Idk where you live, but I spent my entire life living in NYC so I think I know a little more about the topic them you do.  Look it up it is all factual.  Rudolph Giuliani is the one who cleaned up NYC, you can try to say I am ignorant, but it is a fact and if you deny it you are ignorant sir.  
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I live in Chicago - I'm not a fan of NY, but I just look at the numbers.  I hate to point it out, but rudy hasn't been in office in 16 years.... sorry, all but irrelevant in the crime numbers of the last 8 years or so.

You seemed to have overlooked Bloomberg (an independent for his final years as mayor), but hey, I'm not the one from NY, right?  Crime under him dropped to 1950 levels.... how about that?

Also hate to have to list out facts, but:
http://mbprogress.connectionsmedia.com/public-safety/crime

It's just not as easy as saying "I know you are, but what am I", is it?
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Reply #41 - 01/30/17 at 09:16:19
 
Bloomberg, a republican for most of his time as mayor, continued the vast improvements that Giuliani made.  You cant deny that the city was in horrible conditions after years of Democratic control, and only after republicans took over were improvements made.  Giuliani began these improvements and Bloomberg continued the improvements.  De blasio took over and he started a war with the Cops.  Just because he hasn't regressed to turn the city back to how the democrats left it is not a ringing endorsement of democrat control.
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Reply #42 - 01/30/17 at 09:26:14
 
Joer0952 wrote on 01/30/17 at 09:16:19:
Bloomberg, a republican for most of his time as mayor, continued the vast improvements that Giuliani made.  You cant deny that the city was in horrible conditions after years of Democratic control, and only after republicans took over were improvements made.  Giuliani began these improvements and Bloomberg continued the improvements.  De blasio took over and he started a war with the Cops.  Just because he hasn't regressed to turn the city back to how the democrats left it is not a ringing endorsement of democrat control.  


LOL!!

If you define half as most... then um, OK....

Get over the democrat hate, huh?  Yeah, rudy did some good things, but he was by no means perfect - neither was bloomberg or de blasio.

But you hate the democrats so much, you're anticipating failure by de blasio, but it's just not happening.  Sorry.

Look at my posts, I hate the man trump, but I have hopes for my country.  I truly hope I'm wrong about my complaints of trump, but so far, it's been less than encouraging....

De Blasio has continued bloomberg's success.  Sorry if facts upset you.
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Reply #43 - 01/30/17 at 09:34:00
 
T And T Garage wrote on 01/30/17 at 09:26:14:
Joer0952 wrote on 01/30/17 at 09:16:19:
Bloomberg, a republican for most of his time as mayor, continued the vast improvements that Giuliani made.  You cant deny that the city was in horrible conditions after years of Democratic control, and only after republicans took over were improvements made.  Giuliani began these improvements and Bloomberg continued the improvements.  De blasio took over and he started a war with the Cops.  Just because he hasn't regressed to turn the city back to how the democrats left it is not a ringing endorsement of democrat control.  


LOL!!

If you define half as most... then um, OK....

Get over the democrat hate, huh?  Yeah, rudy did some good things, but he was by no means perfect - neither was bloomberg or de blasio.

But you hate the democrats so much, you're anticipating failure by de blasio, but it's just not happening.  Sorry.

Look at my posts, I hate the man trump, but I have hopes for my country.  I truly hope I'm wrong about my complaints of trump, but so far, it's been less than encouraging....

De Blasio has continued bloomberg's success.  Sorry if facts upset you.


I don't hate democrats just their ideology.  When almost all of the most dangerous murder ridden cities are run by democrats its logical to draw a connection between the two and anticipate problems when a democrat takes over.  How would you explain the fact that democrat power and murder numbers increase proportionately?  Just a horrible coincidence seen for decades?
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Reply #44 - 01/30/17 at 09:46:56
 
Joer0952 wrote on 01/30/17 at 09:34:00:
T And T Garage wrote on 01/30/17 at 09:26:14:
Joer0952 wrote on 01/30/17 at 09:16:19:
Bloomberg, a republican for most of his time as mayor, continued the vast improvements that Giuliani made.  You cant deny that the city was in horrible conditions after years of Democratic control, and only after republicans took over were improvements made.  Giuliani began these improvements and Bloomberg continued the improvements.  De blasio took over and he started a war with the Cops.  Just because he hasn't regressed to turn the city back to how the democrats left it is not a ringing endorsement of democrat control.  


LOL!!

If you define half as most... then um, OK....

Get over the democrat hate, huh?  Yeah, rudy did some good things, but he was by no means perfect - neither was bloomberg or de blasio.

But you hate the democrats so much, you're anticipating failure by de blasio, but it's just not happening.  Sorry.

Look at my posts, I hate the man trump, but I have hopes for my country.  I truly hope I'm wrong about my complaints of trump, but so far, it's been less than encouraging....

De Blasio has continued bloomberg's success.  Sorry if facts upset you.


I don't hate democrats just their ideology.  When almost all of the most dangerous murder ridden cities are run by democrats its logical to draw a connection between the two and anticipate problems when a democrat takes over.  How would you explain the fact that democrat power and murder numbers increase proportionately?  Just a horrible coincidence seen for decades?



I can't explain it - it's truly terrible.  Again, I was never defending the crime or passing blame.

The point is - Chicago is far from the worst in terms of crime/murder per-capita.  The righties use us as whipping post and it's just not accurate.


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