SuzukiSavage.com - Taxes... nope.

verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 29042 L.A. California Gender:	Re: Taxes... nope. Reply #60 - 01/31/17 at 09:02:51 Joe, I agree with your post, but will add some qualifiers that need further attention. They say population, but how many white/black/other are generally wandering about on the street? wouldn't it be great if the guns of the future were available now? instant choice of non-lethal rounds for those death by cop idiots.
Back to top	Versey's Place Tech Section Index IP Logged

Joer0952

Senior Member

Offline

SuzukiSavage.com
Rocks!

Posts: 323
Perth Amboy NJ
Gender: male

Re: Taxes... nope.
Reply #61 - 01/31/17 at 12:14:22

verslagen1 wrote on 01/31/17 at 09:02:51:

Joe, I agree with your post, but will add some qualifiers that need further attention.
They say population, but how many white/black/other are generally wandering about on the street?

wouldn't it be great if the guns of the future were available now?
instant choice of non-lethal rounds for those death by cop idiots.

Can you elaborate I am not sure what you mean by "They say population, but how many white/black/other are generally wandering about on the street?"

Yes having the option would be nice for police, but having never had anyone pointing a gun at me I wonder what it must be like to have to make those split second decisions in those high adrenaline situations.

Back to top

IP Logged

verslagen1

YaBB Moderator
ModSquad

Offline

Where there's a
will, I want to be
in it.

Posts: 29042
L.A. California
Gender: male

Re: Taxes... nope.
Reply #62 - 01/31/17 at 12:44:32

Joer0952 wrote on 01/31/17 at 12:14:22:

Can you elaborate I am not sure what you mean by "They say population, but how many white/black/other are generally wandering about on the street?"

I know what it's like in compton, wilshire and pasadena, groups of blacks standing on each corner.
but the mexicans don't do that in el monte and I don't see that anywhere else.
Vs. the 9-5er kicking back at home.

Back to top

Versey's Place
Tech Section Index

IP Logged

Joer0952

Senior Member

Offline

SuzukiSavage.com
Rocks!

Posts: 323
Perth Amboy NJ
Gender: male

Re: Taxes... nope.
Reply #63 - 01/31/17 at 13:32:21

verslagen1 wrote on 01/31/17 at 12:44:32:

Joer0952 wrote on 01/31/17 at 12:14:22:

Can you elaborate I am not sure what you mean by "They say population, but how many white/black/other are generally wandering about on the street?"

I know what it's like in compton, wilshire and pasadena, groups of blacks standing on each corner.
but the mexicans don't do that in el monte and I don't see that anywhere else.
Vs. the 9-5er kicking back at home.

Well I understand that common areas to spend your time is a confounding variable, but I don't think your location should play that great a role. Simple since police are in the business of law enforcement they are concerned with individuals breaking the law regardless of their location and are thusly more likely to interact with them then those abiding the law. For that reason I was just trying to say that a statistical analysis comparing the death by cops rate seen in different races has to take this into account for it to be a fair analysis.

Back to top

IP Logged

verslagen1

YaBB Moderator
ModSquad

Offline

Where there's a
will, I want to be
in it.

Posts: 29042
L.A. California
Gender: male

Re: Taxes... nope.
Reply #64 - 01/31/17 at 14:55:20

Joer0952 wrote on 01/31/17 at 13:32:21:

verslagen1 wrote on 01/31/17 at 12:44:32:

Joer0952 wrote on 01/31/17 at 12:14:22:

Can you elaborate I am not sure what you mean by "They say population, but how many white/black/other are generally wandering about on the street?"

I know what it's like in compton, wilshire and pasadena, groups of blacks standing on each corner.
but the mexicans don't do that in el monte and I don't see that anywhere else.
Vs. the 9-5er kicking back at home.

Well I understand that common areas to spend your time is a confounding variable, but I don't think your location should play that great a role. Simple since police are in the business of law enforcement they are concerned with individuals breaking the law regardless of their location and are thusly more likely to interact with them then those abiding the law. For that reason I was just trying to say that a statistical analysis comparing the death by cops rate seen in different races has to take this into account for it to be a fair analysis.

But, if equal populations are likely to be outside and harassed by cops then the analogy is false.

Back to top

Versey's Place
Tech Section Index

IP Logged

Joer0952

Senior Member

Offline

SuzukiSavage.com
Rocks!

Posts: 323
Perth Amboy NJ
Gender: male

Re: Taxes... nope.
Reply #65 - 01/31/17 at 15:21:03

verslagen1 wrote on 01/31/17 at 14:55:20:

Joer0952 wrote on 01/31/17 at 13:32:21:

verslagen1 wrote on 01/31/17 at 12:44:32:

Joer0952 wrote on 01/31/17 at 12:14:22:

Can you elaborate I am not sure what you mean by "They say population, but how many white/black/other are generally wandering about on the street?"

I know what it's like in compton, wilshire and pasadena, groups of blacks standing on each corner.
but the mexicans don't do that in el monte and I don't see that anywhere else.
Vs. the 9-5er kicking back at home.

Well I understand that common areas to spend your time is a confounding variable, but I don't think your location should play that great a role. Simple since police are in the business of law enforcement they are concerned with individuals breaking the law regardless of their location and are thusly more likely to interact with them then those abiding the law. For that reason I was just trying to say that a statistical analysis comparing the death by cops rate seen in different races has to take this into account for it to be a fair analysis.

But, if equal populations are likely to be outside and harassed by cops then the analogy is false.

well only if you assume that cops drive around and say "man im bored, nothings going on, you know what, pull up to those guys over there, lets screw with them for a while"

Back to top

IP Logged

MnSpring Serious Thumper Online Younger than most people my age. Posts: 10585 Minn Gender:	Re: Taxes... nope. Reply #66 - 01/31/17 at 17:06:48 T And T Garage wrote on 01/30/17 at 12:41:52: ".... PER-CAPITA has EVERYTHING TO DO WITH IT!!! Wanna have a Picnic, don’t like flies on my potato salad. So, look to see, which park, has the least, ‘flys per capita’ But, ALL the Flyes, are on, my potato salad. *Gosh, perhaps never considered all the, ‘other’ factors ?*
Back to top	Ben Franklin once said: "If you give up a freedom, for the sake of security, you will have neither". Which is *More TRUE, today, than yesterday.('06, S-40, Stock) well, mostly* . IP Logged

T And T Garage

Serious Thumper

Offline

SuzukiSavage.com
Rocks!

Posts: 9839

Re: Taxes... nope.
Reply #67 - 01/31/17 at 17:22:57

MnSpring wrote on 01/31/17 at 17:06:48:

[color=#0000ff]T And T Garage wrote on 01/30/17 at 12:41:52:

".... PER-CAPITA has EVERYTHING TO DO WITH IT!!!

Wanna have a Picnic, don’t like flies on my potato salad.
So, look to see, which park, has the least,
‘flys per capita’
But, ALL the Flyes, are on, my potato salad.
Gosh, perhaps never considered all the, ‘other’ factors ?

[/color]

LMAO!!! What the hell does that have to do with per-capita numbers???

Please, try to be a little more coherent, huh? (and really, learn how to spell, ok?)

Back to top

IP Logged

justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Taxes... nope. Reply #68 - 01/31/17 at 19:29:59 A thousand murders in a city of ten thousand is something. A thousand murders in a city of ten million is quite another. Per Capita matters. But Not being the worst is not a great comfort. When fifty are shot on a weekend, something is wrong.
Back to top	The people never give up their liberties but under some delusion.- Edmund Burke. IP Logged

T And T Garage

Serious Thumper

Offline

SuzukiSavage.com
Rocks!

Posts: 9839

Re: Taxes... nope.
Reply #69 - 02/01/17 at 06:37:42

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 01/31/17 at 19:29:59:

A thousand murders in a city of ten thousand is something.
A thousand murders in a city of ten million is quite another.
Per Capita matters.
But Not being the worst is not a great comfort.
When fifty are shot on a weekend, something is wrong.

*sigh*... again...... I NEVER DEFENDED THE MURDERS/VIOLENCE... I only said that Chicago is not the "murder capital" and is safer than Baltimore, St. Louis and several other major cities.

LMAO!! Wow... I seriously don't know why it's so hard for everyone to understand that....

Back to top

IP Logged

Trippah

Serious Thumper

Offline

I ride, therefore I
am.

Posts: 2517
central Mass
Gender: male

Re: Taxes... nope.
Reply #70 - 02/01/17 at 07:26:36

I apologize for bringing this back on topic. Why is seeing a person's tax returns important? To see where they get their income so you can judge if his decisions are based on his beliefs, his income sources, or whatever. The recent incident where, while testifying before congress in his confirmation hearing, a candidate "forgot" his $100 million income from a source (Australian Pharamacy or something like that).(Was it the candidate for Health and Human services?) shows why it is important. If you do not see this basic correlation, you are indeed a brick. You may be a brick that is the foundation of this country but a brick none the less.

Back to top

IP Logged

T And T Garage

Serious Thumper

Offline

SuzukiSavage.com
Rocks!

Posts: 9839

Re: Taxes... nope.
Reply #71 - 02/01/17 at 08:42:11

Trippah wrote on 02/01/17 at 07:26:36:

I apologize for bringing this back on topic. Why is seeing a person's tax returns important? To see where they get their income so you can judge if his decisions are based on his beliefs, his income sources, or whatever. The recent incident where, while testifying before congress in his confirmation hearing, a candidate "forgot" his $100 million income from a source (Australian Pharamacy or something like that).(Was it the candidate for Health and Human services?) shows why it is important. If you do not see this basic correlation, you are indeed a brick. You may be a brick that is the foundation of this country but a brick none the less.

Well said! Thanks for bringing it back on topic!

Here's the excerpt:

President-elect Donald Trump’s pick to lead the Treasury Department says his initial failure to disclose $100 million in assets was an “unintentional” oversight.

Steven Mnuchin on Thursday told the Senate Finance Committee that revised documents he filed with the committee a day earlier showed the additional assets, and blamed the complexity of nominee paperwork for those assets missing initially.

“As you all can appreciate, filling out these government forms is quite complicated,” he said. “The paperwork … was quite a job.”

Um, “The paperwork … was quite a job.” ?????

Yeah, just the kind of guy you want running the Treasury Dept.

Back to top

IP Logged

justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Taxes... nope. Reply #72 - 02/01/17 at 13:23:10 Almost as bad as head of state department not having a clue about the importance of protecting state secrets. The outrage today while pretending she w a s pure and innocent destroys your moral high ground.
Back to top	The people never give up their liberties but under some delusion.- Edmund Burke. IP Logged

T And T Garage

Serious Thumper

Offline

SuzukiSavage.com
Rocks!

Posts: 9839

Re: Taxes... nope.
Reply #73 - 02/01/17 at 14:39:19

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 02/01/17 at 13:23:10:

Almost as bad as head of state department not having a clue about the importance of protecting state secrets.
The outrage today while pretending she w a s pure and innocent destroys your moral high ground.

Hey look! It's the "I know you are, but what am I?" rebuttal.

LOL
Get over it - she lost. Meanwhile, this genius complains about the paperwork... yeah, great start for a nominee....

Back to top

IP Logged

justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Taxes... nope. Reply #74 - 02/01/17 at 14:47:35 I agree, that is lame. The job is gonna be a lot of paperwork. If he's not up for it,he should decline. I just can't help but enjoy watching people get all worked up over everything that is not okay with anyone who is not the same party as they are while they walk right by the illegal, immoral and stupid actions of their party.
Back to top	The people never give up their liberties but under some delusion.- Edmund Burke. IP Logged