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Reply #15 - 01/26/17 at 14:24:26

raydawg wrote on 01/26/17 at 12:50:37:

Yes, I like this.
But I feel we are not created with knowledge of a God.....
For if we were, then this paradox would cease to exsist.
We do not know right, from wrong, but as you all have pointed out, culture decides that.
Instead, I say we are created with a need, a void, almost instinct like, when you are hungry, you seek food.....
When I am horny, I play my trumpet Grin

This explanation explains addictions, which persuades all of us, some obvious, most not.
It drives ambitions, compition, and a lot of our "instincts" if we do not gain control of them, mostly simple obedience, yet we justify all sorts of crazy reasons to not.

Another well thought out statement. To build on that, perhaps man's sentience has helped him to see that virtue (be it empathy, love, trust, forgiveness, etc.), such as it is, is beneficial to well being. When you give, you get.

That "Golden Rule" has a way of making people's lives better.

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Papa Bear Senior Member Offline Posts: 476 Canada ... near the Motor City Gender:	Re: The goodness of man..... Reply #16 - 01/26/17 at 14:53:09 6levels of moral development. http://www.simplypsychology.org/kohlberg.html The native Americans call it "walking the Red Road" Knowing (about) God is one thing - choosing to follow is another. Little to do with culture as we mature. (most of the time) I know what's right/wrong .. i don't have to be told.
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Re: The goodness of man.....
Reply #18 - 01/26/17 at 15:17:29

[quote author=544A454449544F52200 link=1485434658/0#13 date=1485459681][color=#0000ff]MShipley wrote on 01/26/17 at 10:09:38:

I'm by no means a theologist, nor an atheist. Like many, I'm agnostic and don't think any one answer is the right one. But humans have risen to this place on this planet for a reason. Perhaps someday we'll find out why.

WOW T and T I have to say I agree with ever word you said, and I to am an agnostic. e often butt heads so I thought it was nice to finally agree Grin

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Re: The goodness of man.....
Reply #19 - 01/26/17 at 17:23:06

[quote author=5A7F756220292522100 link=1485434658/15#18 date=1485472649]T And T Garage wrote on 01/26/17 at 11:41:21:

[color=#0000ff]MShipley wrote on 01/26/17 at 10:09:38:

I'm by no means a theologist, nor an atheist. Like many, I'm agnostic and don't think any one answer is the right one. But humans have risen to this place on this planet for a reason. Perhaps someday we'll find out why.

WOW T and T I have to say I agree with ever word you said, and I to am an agnostic. e often butt heads so I thought it was nice to finally agree Grin

Well me thinks you guys can now share a gender neutral bathroom Kiss

However, I really like and appreciate the replies and input.
I am believer, and I do NOT put the decay of "mankind" on the shoulders of atheist, agnostic, Gays, Muslims, etc....
I lay it squarely on the shoulders of my fellow believers, and myself, at being extremely poor examples of God's grace. Embarrassed

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Reply #20 - 01/27/17 at 05:46:41

The US was founded on the principle of God's grace.

I find the more you remove God from things (school, gov't., Christmas etc) the more "problems" you will encounter.

Religious God (follow MY WAY or I'll kill you) is a real problem as well.
I believe true God is sought in spirituality (we all respectfully get along).

I'm off to my meeting now to seek God (as I understand HIM) Wink

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