Joer0952 wrote on 01/30/17 at 09:40:32:



You seem to miss the point of the class as described.  It's actually EXACTLY what you seem to think is lacking - a two sided view:

At the conclusion of the course, students will be able to:

-Identify micro-aggressions within their daily lives and within society as a whole.
-Define power, privilege, value systems and difference and be able to identify their different forms.
-Recognize the commonalities and differences that exist among people and cultures and how these factors influence their relationship with others.
-Demonstrate a personal ethic geared towards civic responsibility.
-Identify ways in which they can challenge or address systems of power and privilege.
-Demonstrate an appreciation for other points of view and other cultures.
-Recognize the influence of culture on communication and be willing to address any difference of one's own culture and communication style.
-Use observation, conflict management, dialogue, and active listening as a means of understanding and engaging with others.
-Discuss how they will be socially just global citizenship as part of their lifelong learning.

raydawg wrote on 01/30/17 at 10:13:43:

Think of it this way......

If the left had put themselves in the deplorable shoes, they might have won......
Instead of now, like last week the democrats had a lesson in how to talk with people who hold a different perspective and belief. Or a need for safe speak in campuse  

Technically, the left did win - by nearly 3 million votes....

But then, hillary deserved to lose - her campaign stunk.  She was way overconfident - just like the dnc.

But that's not the point, is it?  The point of this thread is this class and how "terrible" it is or isn't.

There's been no answer how a right leaning class would be better, or even necessary.  There's no proof that this is a left-leaning class in and of itself.

This is all your interpretation.  You have yours, I have mine.

T And T Garage wrote on 01/30/17 at 09:50:11:


I am not sure how you see that as a 2 sided view.  If you are interpreting "other points of view" as including the rights point of view I think thats a misinterpretation.  I think, based on every other bullet point,  they are talking about the "privileged" understanding the point of view of the "marginalized"

Joer0952 wrote on 01/30/17 at 12:46:50:

T And T Garage wrote on 01/30/17 at 09:50:11:

Joer0952 wrote on 01/30/17 at 09:40:32:

I dont think your understanding my point, the problem isn't the class itself ,even though I would probably not agree with most of it, it is that it is the only views given.  We don't know what the right course would be because it is not offered.  When you only give one side it is for the purpose of indoctrination not for an open debate.  

You seem to miss the point of the class as described.  It's actually EXACTLY what you seem to think is lacking - a two sided view:

At the conclusion of the course, students will be able to:

-Identify micro-aggressions within their daily lives and within society as a whole.
-Define power, privilege, value systems and difference and be able to identify their different forms.
-Recognize the commonalities and differences that exist among people and cultures and how these factors influence their relationship with others.
-Demonstrate a personal ethic geared towards civic responsibility.
-Identify ways in which they can challenge or address systems of power and privilege.
-Demonstrate an appreciation for other points of view and other cultures.
-Recognize the influence of culture on communication and be willing to address any difference of one's own culture and communication style.
-Use observation, conflict management, dialogue, and active listening as a means of understanding and engaging with others.
-Discuss how they will be socially just global citizenship as part of their lifelong learning.

I am not sure how you see that as a 2 sided view.  If you are interpreting "other points of view" as including the rights point of view I think thats a misinterpretation.  I think, based on every other bullet point,  they are talking about the "privileged" understanding the point of view of the "marginalized"

I consider "other points of view" just that - someone other than me.... I don't look at someone and label them right or left.

If you honestly base everything/everyone on a partisan point of view, you're lost.

Your interpretation is just that - an interpretation.

Joer0952 wrote on 01/30/17 at 14:01:36:

Are you denying that Academia has a far left agenda?

I identify as more liberal than conservative - obviously.

I honestly don't care what one school does as opposed to another.  I've sent 3 kids through college (all to the same liberal arts school) - 2 of them are far more conservative that the other.

No big deal.

If you feel that they're liberal, then don't send your kids there.

Get over the conspiracy.

But you may want to ask yourself this - why is the country center-left as opposed to center-right?  Regardless of the electoral results, the left won the popular vote.  That does say something.

I will admit that the left has done a far better job at taking over the media and academia in recent times, but over history the political views and support of the center has ebbed and flowed with current events.  You nor I have no way of knowing for sure what the future holds.  And then of course there is what Justin has already stated.

T And T Garage wrote on 01/30/17 at 15:17:43:


justin already answered this question