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Reply #15 - 01/30/17 at 19:56:10

I know none of you trumpeteers (id'd by the long Pinnochio nose) Wink

but MShiply is correct..if you want to buy cheap (inexpensive) it will be foreign made and as the world levels out, we at the top will loose some just as the poorest nations will gain. Tarrifs mean either you pay more cause the products' price is up (to cover increase cost) OR you pay more because the product is protect by the tariff and is thus more (If they could have competed on price, you wouldn't need the tariff). So for example:
When The Donald says Mexico will pay for the wall, he is just bullshitting you. Wink

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Reply #16 - 01/31/17 at 13:48:55

Trippah wrote on 01/30/17 at 19:56:10:

I know none of you trumpeteers (id'd by the long Pinnochio nose) Wink

but MShiply is correct..if you want to buy cheap (inexpensive) it will be foreign made and as the world levels out, we at the top will loose some just as the poorest nations will gain. Tarrifs mean either you pay more cause the products' price is up (to cover increase cost) OR you pay more because the product is protect by the tariff and is thus more (If they could have competed on price, you wouldn't need the tariff). So for example:
When The Donald says Mexico will pay for the wall, he is just bullshitting you. Wink

Again, when did democrats ever care about spending the tax payers money? Also, do you know how much illegal immigration costs the tax payers? Between public assistance, education, law enforcement, medical etc...by anyones measure it is many billions a year.

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Reply #17 - 01/31/17 at 14:28:51

Before we had the Social Safety Net people came and worked. Now they come and get help. We pay for them. And they vote democrat, so we pay again. The cost of keeping them out is less than having them.
Here's the kikker.
Educated people have fewer children. Okay, I know a doctor with five kids. Exceptions exist. Generally speaking as a population is more educated they work and do other things than raise kids. Americans,, the white folks, have been saddled with higher costs of living and stagnant income levels for thirty years.
In order to maintain a decent standard of living a small family is accepted. We aren't having enough kids to replace us. Without immigration our society will fall..

THAT'S what some people want us to believe.
No, BECAUSE OF the policies that have been shoved down our throats,we are under economic pressure that causes intelligent people to not bring a child into the world, knowing that we can't adequately provide for it.

Historically, better educated societies breed fewer children into existence, but I can't see that there is a reason to have so few as to fail to create enough for replacing the dead.

You people need to get over that
Diversity is our strength crap.
A unified front wins, and you know it.
Divide and conquer is a known tactic. Diversity IS division.
See the words? If you have a knowledge of history you know how the diverse peoples that eventually wound up conquered by and brought into the Roman Empire helped bring it down.

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Reply #18 - 01/31/17 at 14:42:05

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 01/30/17 at 16:30:32:

C'mon - you gotta just own this one. There are thousands of suppliers right here in the US that could have made trump's suits, ties and hats.

Instead, he created jobs in Mexico, giving them reason to stay there.
And, you make a statement that You believe. Really? What is the price of the product made in Mexico?
What are That products competition?
What would it cost to have a product of like kind and quality made with his label on it?
Where are these Thousands of manufacturers? We don't even make Levis any more.. There are a couple of niche pants makers, but Wool coats? You can show us where they are made and what they cost.

BWAAAHAAHAAHAAHAAHAAHAAHAAHAAHAAHAAA!!!!!!!!

Here are some fabric mills:

http://www.apparelsearch.com/world_clothing_industry/united_states/fabric_mil...

Some clothing manufacturers:

http://www.apparelsearch.com/america.htm

https://clothingmadeinusablog.wordpress.com/2011/09/27/american-clothing-manufac
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Joer0952 Senior Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 323 Perth Amboy NJ Gender:	Re: Tariffs will pay for the wall... Reply #19 - 01/31/17 at 14:43:54 When 30% of the immigrants coming here from 1 country we aren't even getting diversity, just a culture shift
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Tariffs will pay for the wall... Reply #20 - 01/31/17 at 14:45:31 So you know he could contract with them and have things made to his specifications and they would be Like Kind and Quality and still be able to sell them and realize a profit? You should offer him your services.
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Tariffs will pay for the wall... Reply #21 - 01/31/17 at 14:46:48 Joer0952 wrote on 01/31/17 at 14:43:54: When 30% of the immigrants coming here from 1 country we aren't even getting diversity, just a culture shift Hmmm,, interesting..
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Reply #22 - 01/31/17 at 14:57:16

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 01/31/17 at 14:28:51:

Before we had the Social Safety Net people came and worked. Now they come and get help. We pay for them. And they vote democrat, so we pay again. The cost of keeping them out is less than having them.
Here's the kikker.
Educated people have fewer children. Okay, I know a doctor with five kids. Exceptions exist. Generally speaking as a population is more educated they work and do other things than raise kids. Americans,, the white folks, have been saddled with higher costs of living and stagnant income levels for thirty years.
In order to maintain a decent standard of living a small family is accepted. We aren't having enough kids to replace us. Without immigration our society will fall..

THAT'S what some people want us to believe.
No, BECAUSE OF the policies that have been shoved down our throats,we are under economic pressure that causes intelligent people to not bring a child into the world, knowing that we can't adequately provide for it.

Historically, better educated societies breed fewer children into existence, but I can't see that there is a reason to have so few as to fail to create enough for replacing the dead.

You people need to get over that
Diversity is our strength crap.
A unified front wins, and you know it.
Divide and conquer is a known tactic. Diversity IS division.
See the words? If you have a knowledge of history you know how the diverse peoples that eventually wound up conquered by and brought into the Roman Empire helped bring it down.

Sad... so sad.

So I wonder, what if you said the same thing about a Jew named Albert, or a Serb named Nikola? Would you have turned away that South African guy named Musk? How about a Syrian named Jandali, whose son was Steve Jobs?

Stop talking like a moron. Enough of the word play. This country has become what it is BECAUSE of it's diversity, not in spite of it.

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T And T Garage Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 9839	Re: Tariffs will pay for the wall... Reply #23 - 01/31/17 at 15:01:24 Joer0952 wrote on 01/31/17 at 14:43:54: When 30% of the immigrants coming here from 1 country we aren't even getting diversity, just a culture shift Yeah, that'd be really something if the total immigrant population was more than 13%.... so.....
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Reply #24 - 01/31/17 at 15:04:08

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 01/31/17 at 14:45:31:

So you know he could contract with them and have things made to his specifications and they would be
Like Kind and Quality
and still be able to sell them and realize a profit?
You should offer him your services.

Seriously? It's not about what he did... it's about OWNING IT. I never said he shouldn't have made a profit, it's that he doesn't own it.

Let him make as much money as possible, but don't turn around and talk trash about the exact same thing you did 8 months ago....

It's about HIS HYPOCRISY!

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Reply #25 - 01/31/17 at 15:27:03

T And T Garage wrote on 01/31/17 at 15:01:24:

Joer0952 wrote on 01/31/17 at 14:43:54:

When 30% of the immigrants coming here from 1 country we aren't even getting diversity, just a culture shift

Yeah, that'd be really something if the total immigrant population was more than 13%.... so.....

no assimilation + multiple generation = culture shift

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Reply #26 - 01/31/17 at 15:40:38

Joer0952 wrote on 01/31/17 at 15:27:03:

T And T Garage wrote on 01/31/17 at 15:01:24:

[color=#0000ff]Joer0952 wrote on 01/31/17 at 14:43:54:

When 30% of the immigrants coming here from 1 country we aren't even getting diversity, just a culture shift

Yeah, that'd be really something if the total immigrant population was more than 13%.... so.....

no assimilation + multiple generation = culture shift

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Then why aren't we speaking Italian or Polish or German? There are Little Italy's all over the country. There are Chinatowns as well, Little Havanas, etc.

Yes, Spanish is the second most predominant language for the US - as it should be. We've shared a border for about 180 years now... In my 50+ years, I've seen ZERO culture shift. I live in a huge city with large numbers of Hispanics - the culture of Chicago - and the US - remains the same.

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Reply #27 - 01/31/17 at 16:50:07

T And T Garage wrote on 01/31/17 at 15:40:38:

Yes, Spanish is the second most predominant language for the US - as it should be. We've shared a border for about 180 years now... In my 50+ years, I've seen ZERO culture shift. I live in a huge city with large numbers of Hispanics - the culture of Chicago - and the US - remains the same.
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How many signs are in Spanish? Restrooms, ATM, so on so forth... Do you believe that constitutes a ZERO shift?

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MnSpring Serious Thumper Offline Younger than most people my age. Posts: 10582 Minn Gender:	Re: Tariffs will pay for the wall... Reply #28 - 01/31/17 at 16:59:40 T And T Garage wrote on 01/31/17 at 15:40:38: " ... In my 50+ years, I've seen ZERO culture shift. WOW, In the last 50 YEARS. You have seen, NO, Culture Shift ??? Wow, Perhaps you have kept your eyes closed that long. *Or have some of that, ’special’ wool, the DNC Spins !*
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