justin_o_guy2 wrote on 02/17/17 at 21:07:39:

The original explanation was sufficient.  If you can't understand the driving force behind it is to regain civility, you're not gonna get anything from what I might say now.
Your pretense and resultant emotional reaction that we just lost our freedom, well, guess what? This is like a private club. You don't like the rules, kick rocks. We HAVE no rights here. We are all guests.

JOG, your post above is totally there.  I am taking pieces, to reply to, to make a point.

“…You don’t like the rules, kick rocks. …”
Not a  Problem. Understand completely.
But,  WHAT, are, the Rules ?
and WHY, are their TWO,  different sets of Rules,  Depending on the POV of the Poster?
 (Continue Reading)
 See,  I did NOT  say:  ‘don’t get your underwear in a bunch’, because I do not know how some would, ‘interpret’, the ‘intent’.

“…you’re not gonna get anything from what I might say now…”
Is that comment,  civil, or not ?
Could some say: “Hey, JOG  just called  MN  Stupid” ?
( I don’t care, not gonna cry or companion about it, but you know, ’some’, would, if those words were spoken to them)

“ …This is like a private club…”
Yea, it is.  
A private, Mens, Club, been around for 100+ years.
One day a Woman goes in and wants to join.
She is told no, it is a, ‘Mens Only’ club.
She contacts a lawyer, and suddenly, it is not longer,
 ‘Just’, a, mens club.
(I agree,The rules are a, ‘mens only’ club.
if that woman wants a club, find one, which is a, woman’s club only,
or find one that allows both).  Kinna like a  Baker.

Do wonder though, what the, ‘un-said’, ‘oral’ tradition, ‘rules’, are.
Local town, has a golf course. Anybody can to play, (paying their green fees, and making a appointment)
And/Or, one can become a,  Member. (and pay less green fees)

Ya know what,  Their are  NO,  members, that have  Black Skin, or practice the Jewish faith !
Now, ‘Joe the plumber’, moves to town, (white Skin), wants to be a  member, he is told,  “Well, their is a waiting list, and you are # 68, let me take your information, and when we have a membership available, we will contact you”.

The next day, a  Lawyer, Doctor, Banker, etc, moves to town.
They go to the golf course and asks to be a member, and they are told:
“Here is your membership”

Hmmm,  is that, ‘discrimination’ ?
And what set of, ’rules’, by what POV, which are not said,  yet are enforced?

“…understand the driving force behind it is to regain civility…”
That is  GREAT.   Very Noble cause.  Very  Worthy Cause.
BUT, when person ‘A’, used certain words, or intent, they are ‘censured’.
When, person ‘B’, used certain words, or intent.  Everything is OK. ?

That has as much common sense as:
‘Bank Robber drove away in a  Red Car,
so we will Ban ALL  Red Cars,
that will stop all Bank Robberies !’

Again  regaining civility, is a  very Noble, and worthwhile cause.
BUT it is   NOT,  accomplished.
by two  different, sets of rules,
for different  POV’s. As in what,  ‘words’, or, ‘intent’, mean.

We have all seen, some Nations elected people,
shout, use fowl language, throw objects, even fisticuffs.
Yet here is  the US, we are, ‘civilized’, and none of that is allowed.
Just listen to some of those speeches, (on opposing POV’s)
In Fed, State, County, Town  level.
They are SO, dripping with sarcasm, innuendoes, double entendres, etc.  One must wear TALL  Boots!
  (BUT,  No  objects thrown)

If, “Intent”, of  things said,  is to be ‘Judged’.
(using a Very Long List of, ‘words’, and a longer list of where, and to who, such words, may or not may be used.
One must also say,  Who, will be judging, ‘intent’, and from which POV, will that, ‘intent’, be judged.

And Yes, this forum IS, very much like a  ‘Private Club’.
BUT is it,  filled with:  ‘un-said’, ‘oral’ tradition, ‘rules’, that concern only one POV.

And finally.
“…resultant emotional reaction that we just lost our freedom…”
       You want to  KILL  a  Frog.
You put one in a pan of Hot water, it will jump Out.
You are unsuccessful.
You put one in a pan of  Cold water, and, s l o w a l y raise the heat, you will Kill it.
You are now, sucussful.



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