LOL......

Look at the bigger picture - this isn't about gay rights - this is about mega churches preaching fear and hate.

Oh, only churches.....LOL!

Maybe you misspoke, or....????

Ain't nobody, I mean, NOBODY who is NOT guilty of promoting any ideas, to others, for their own gain.

You want to say that has never been a wrinkle on your starched panties, them go ahead, you would not know how silly you look to pert near everyone else, no how.

BTW, if you quote scripture, you just might, one day, be held accountable to it, as I didn't know I wasn't suppose to, won't keep you outta hell  

And one more thing, yes, "churches" have fought against all sorts of things, from the earliest days, not just about money, or message.

That is mans sin, NOT Jesus's, nor sanctioned, or endorsed, by him.
Fact is, he will hold "preachers" of God's word, to a higher standard.
However, you will never know God, or Jesus's message, and what it means to the BELIEVER, until you surrender every last ounce of YOUR will unto His, AND......accept His gift of the Spirit.
Until then, anyone, ANYONE, saying they know God's will is mistaken, or outright lying, and yes, lying to make personal gains....
AND, we saw how that pizzed off Jesus before, turned over their tables, spilled their goodies all over the tabernacle  

OK, I am done preaching, I got my own repenting problems to attend to  

Serowbot wrote on 05/19/17 at 17:06:49:



Gee, I guess we could say that is why the polls were off in the election too, poor Hillary, closet conservatives.....

It must be hard to live grasping at stuff to make you feel accepted  

Like I said, Jesus wouldn't have condoned these kinds of bigotry.  From what I know of the guy, he was far more tolerant than today's self-proclaimed "Christians".



Really? This "guy" said "Do not think I've come to bring peace. I've not come to bring peace to the earth, but with a sword. I've come to turn a man against his father, a daughter against her mother....."

That's just one example. He argued against the perversion the religious leaders had done to the "Old Testament Laws" but he specifically pointed out he was to enhance those laws, not remove them.

Jesus was the most intolerant of people. He would be convicted of hate speech in many nations today (including this one within a few more years of liberal influence).

You (and Sew) have fallen into the trap of letting people tell you what Jesus said. Snowflakes have turned him into some cool guy who would march in a gay parade in the morning , go to a  libertarian debate in the afternoon, say a nondenominational, non-confrontational prayer at a multi faith meeting to address Islamicphobis before a  vegetarian dinner and a joint with a cup of green tea before bed, probably with an Asian girl who's a vegan and never wears shoes.

But seriously, explore this topic by yourself. Start over from scratch. No one would argue mankind has corrupted religion so leave that part out of it for now.

Serowbot wrote on 05/20/17 at 07:26:18:


That is good Bot  

But remember, and this is where I believe so many folks miss God's message to THEM.....
That the bible speaks to THEM, collectively.

What I believe is a special message lies within its text, that is directed solely to me/them....
As we are ALL as distinct, and special, as he intended us to be.

Understanding that (if you can) means its "interpretation" is solely mine, as were the text written by man, and reinterpreted over time, and languages, to address new meanings, etc, in a changing enviroment.

The God I believe that crafted all our eyes see, can dang well talk directly to me, and does, through the means he created, to be able for me to come to his understanding(s).

I do not need a pastor, a church, a tax write off, or even you Bot, to be able to come to God.

Ya all have a blessed weekend.....its sunny hear, I can work outside, and Trump is outta this country      

I'm glad you are all interested in the teachings of Jesus....instead of focusing on on the view of an individual's study of the book of Romans why don't you read It! I often find people want to pull individual scriptures out, interpret it literally (outside of it's contects) and hold it over people. If you want to be literal may I suggest Jesus's statement:

I am the way, the truth and the life, no one comes to the father except though me.

Also where he told Necodimus, you must be born again.

MShipley wrote on 05/20/17 at 08:37:00:


Uh, yap.......
Tis' the only way you will hear God speak to you....

I mean, heck yeah I'm good,   but my words are utter nonsense, as spoken in tongue.
A person can only hear, of that which they try to understand.
You look to find deniable, you shall find your desired results.

Well fellas - as we can see, herein lies the problem with religion.  Interpretation.

You cannot say that the pastor I refer to is not a Christian.  He preaches the Gospel (read his other blog posts), he evangelizes, he teaches his congregation, etc.  So then - I guess you could say his "brand" of Christianity is different than others, no?

Given that - it's logical to relate the same thing to all religions.  It's therefore silly to think that any one religion is "right".

Even though I'm agnostic, I appreciate this pastor's POV more than the megachurches and the "Christians" that condemn others based on their skin color, sexuality or religion.  Keep it real boys - the right wing "Christians" do that all the time.

MShipley wrote on 05/20/17 at 10:04:56:



Don't cast dispersion so easily.  I said that I appreciated the pastor.  How is that me knowing more??

Do you suppose you know more than the pastor??

LOL - talk about being judgmental...  Get over it - not everyone will meet your ideal - nor will they meet mine.  But from what I glean from Jesus' teaching - the view of the pastor is far more in line than that of the megachurch.