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Re: A Pastor to Appreciate
Reply #30 - 05/20/17 at 10:34:49
 
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Re: A Pastor to Appreciate
Reply #31 - 05/20/17 at 11:01:34
 
T And T Garage wrote on 05/20/17 at 09:58:56:
Well fellas - as we can see, herein lies the problem with religion.  Interpretation.

You cannot say that the pastor I refer to is not a Christian.  He preaches the Gospel (read his other blog posts), he evangelizes, he teaches his congregation, etc.  So then - I guess you could say his "brand" of Christianity is different than others, no?

Given that - it's logical to relate the same thing to all religions.  It's therefore silly to think that any one religion is "right".

Even though I'm agnostic, I appreciate this pastor's POV more than the megachurches and the "Christians" that condemn others based on their skin color, sexuality or religion.  Keep it real boys - the right wing "Christians" do that all the time.


I do not believe you engage others with honest intent.....
You do not seem to look for enlightenment, learning, of another POV, no, you passively aggressively try and manipulate under a pretext, that you do NOT adhere too, re: your own critique.

You see things how you WANT to see them, how you NEED to see them, and cast out your net to gather others, yet fault others for their beliefs, actions, in sharing and believing their own POV/beliefs
You say Jesus was, yet you appear to discard, deny, or overlook other teachings by him....
You are very selective in your reasoning, and either fail to see your complicity in the dividing of folk (by design by others, perhaps?) or so deep within your need to be on the "right team" you have lost any perspective, you might have had in questioning that (motives) about yourself, that you charge others with....

I can't answer that, I can only pose a question....
You seem sincere, tho I would say lost to reality.
Again, not my reality, that to is subject to the same influences you are visited by/with....
I merely read your statements, on multiple topics and post, and that is my conclusion.
It is sad, for when any of us do this, it renders us to a point of no consequences, ignored, like the little boy who cried wolf.

Offered freely, no expectations, unsolicited, worthless, perhaps.  
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Reply #32 - 05/20/17 at 20:12:08
 
Overall,... the purpose of the Jesus teachings is to be inclusive.

That is perhaps the most incorrect statement ever made on this forum.

Everyone's welcomed inside, no one's excluded, as long as you're the same as everyone else inside.

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Reply #33 - 05/20/17 at 20:22:59
 
raydawg wrote on 05/20/17 at 11:01:34:
I do not believe you engage others with honest intent.....
You do not seem to look for enlightenment, learning, of another POV, no, you passively aggressively try and manipulate under a pretext, that you do NOT adhere too, re: your own critique.

I believe I do and I think your perception is wrong.

Please refer to the original post - "This is the perfect response to both the "religious persecution" and megachurches in America"

I'm not misrepresenting myself at all.  My intent is nothing BUT honest.  I truly feel that the right wing "Christians" who preach fear and hatred of those who aren't like them are not what real Christianity is all about.  Further, I think all megachurches are nothing but money making schemes that prey on people looking for hope and peace.

You see things how you WANT to see them, how you NEED to see them, and cast out your net to gather others, yet fault others for their beliefs, actions, in sharing and believing their own POV/beliefs
You say Jesus was, yet you appear to discard, deny, or overlook other teachings by him....

LOL - what you're doing right now is what's called "projection" in psychological terms.

Sorry, but I've said many times that I'm agnostic - if you don't know what that is, that's on you.

Also - for the record - I think anyone being denied something just because they're  a homosexual is wrong.  Period.


You are very selective in your reasoning, and either fail to see your complicity in the dividing of folk (by design by others, perhaps?) or so deep within your need to be on the "right team" you have lost any perspective, you might have had in questioning that (motives) about yourself, that you charge others with....

Again - see above regarding projection.  It's funny that you must try to define me in such a way as to make yourself feel better... kind of odd, don't you think?

I can't answer that, I can only pose a question....
You seem sincere, tho I would say lost to reality.
Again, not my reality, that to is subject to the same influences you are visited by/with....
I merely read your statements, on multiple topics and post, and that is my conclusion.
It is sad, for when any of us do this, it renders us to a point of no consequences, ignored, like the little boy who cried wolf.

Offered freely, no expectations, unsolicited, worthless, perhaps.  


I'm going to need help with that last paragraph... Not sure what you meant by any of it or if you were just trying to be philosophical... On second thought, don't bother - thanks.

Suffice it to say, once again a posting has been taken on a tangent.... oh well.
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Reply #34 - 05/20/17 at 20:32:10
 
WebsterMark wrote on 05/20/17 at 20:12:08:
Overall,... the purpose of the Jesus teachings is to be inclusive.

That is perhaps the most incorrect statement ever made on this forum.

Everyone's welcomed inside, no one's excluded, as long as you're the same as everyone else inside.



"Everyone's welcomed inside, no one's excluded, as long as you're the same as everyone else inside. "

Ummm...  Huh????

That sentence makes no sense.... LOL ..  It's null.  You can't say "no one's excluded" and then say "as long as..."

Too funny!
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Reply #35 - 05/21/17 at 05:25:18
 
The fact you don't understand should be concerning to you. Think about it.
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Reply #36 - 05/21/17 at 07:27:13
 
Actually T I think you are a great example of what Franklin Grahm is talking about. Your hate and Bigotry against something you obviously  do not understand.

I invite you again to come, check it out, Jesus's love and salvation is actually open to all including you.
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Reply #37 - 05/21/17 at 09:09:23
 
I'm going to need help with that last paragraph... Not sure what you meant by any of it or if you were just trying to be philosophical... On second thought, don't bother - thanks.

Suffice it to say, once again a posting has been taken on a tangent.... oh well.


Hhmmmmmm.......

Perhaps I am not making myself clear, let me try to spell it out.
The very thing you find troubling with mega churches, etc, is their manipulation.
The message is only an avenue to their own gain.
Be it anti gay, etc, it used to garner support so the leadership of that mega church can enrich their own personal gain.
Ditto for corporations.
Ditto for Trump.
Ditto for republicans.
Ditto for any person or group you disagree with in their belief and mission.
Even me, as I project  Grin

Why.......????

Because in your mind, you are absolute authority......
You have solved all the riddles intellectually, for us, thank you.
Now that you, the great Oz, has spoken, you act like Trump, with your LOL's, and claims of topic jack, etc...
With a smug dismissive attitude, I can only imagine, er, I mean project, you like Trump does with his wrinkled up puss face of arrogance, as he shakes his head side to side, only needs to put his little fingers in his ears to make the picture complete.

Maybe you just want us to coddle you, is that it?  Kiss
Or, maybe you should not "project" yourself, unless you can stand the heat in the kitchen.

I will say this, you are very entertaining  Grin

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Reply #38 - 05/21/17 at 09:23:07
 
You sound pretty smug yourself there, Dawg...
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Reply #39 - 05/21/17 at 10:03:14
 
Serowbot wrote on 05/21/17 at 09:23:07:
You sound pretty smug yourself there, Dawg...


Oh yes I am, thank you for keeping me in check!  Grin
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Reply #40 - 05/21/17 at 15:06:09
 
WebsterMark wrote on 05/21/17 at 05:25:18:
The fact you don't understand should be concerning to you. Think about it.


What's to understand?

It's no different than someone saying - "This forum is open to everyone, as long as they're republican."

Please.... tell me how what you said is any different???

LMAO!!!
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Reply #41 - 05/21/17 at 15:28:54
 
raydawg wrote on 05/21/17 at 09:09:23:
Because in your mind, you are absolute authority......
You have solved all the riddles intellectually, for us, thank you.

You're welcome.  But you shouldn't always wait for someone else to solve your riddles for you.

Now that you, the great Oz, has spoken, you act like Trump, with your LOL's, and claims of topic jack, etc...

Do I?  I've never see our president use an LOL.... As to topic jack - that is self evident.

With a smug dismissive attitude, I can only imagine, er, I mean project, you like Trump does with his wrinkled up puss face of arrogance, as he shakes his head side to side, only needs to put his little fingers in his ears to make the picture complete.

No, you're wrong - sorry.

Maybe you just want us to coddle you, is that it?  Kiss
Or, maybe you should not "project" yourself, unless you can stand the heat in the kitchen.

Once again, you're wrong.  I don't want to be coddled, I'd just like to see someone explain how they could take the side of a large megachurch over that of a small parish pastor.  He embodies the spirit of Jesus' teachings.

I've gone through RCIA when my kids were first born.  Later, I went through the same (basic) course in the Presbyterian Church.  (I'm currently not affiliated, obviously)  I'm no expert, but from what I learned in those experiences is that most right wing "Christians"  are not following Jesus' example.  Homophobia, xenophobia, religious segregation, bigotry, greed, etc.  

I will say this, you are very entertaining  Grin


Oh pshaw - you're gonna make me blush!  I'm glad that you're entertained.  But I can't hold a candle to most of the others (including you) on this little forum

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