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Reply #30 - 05/25/17 at 12:10:28

Dylan Roof was not a Christian, his parents may be and he may have attended a church but he never claimed to be a Christian.

Further more, he did not commit his crimes to further the Gospel of Jesus nor did he commit his crimes in the name of God, Jesus or anyone else. He did it because he was a racist that wanted to start a race war.

It had nothing to do with Christianity.

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MShipley Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 681	Re: what's it gonna take? Reply #31 - 05/25/17 at 12:12:30 PS, for the first time in a long time I was inspired by the way our President and First lady presented themselves and America to a foreign country over the last few days.
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Reply #32 - 05/25/17 at 12:31:54

MShipley wrote on 05/25/17 at 12:10:28:

Dylan Roof was not a Christian, his parents may be and he may have attended a church but he never claimed to be a Christian.

Further more, he did not commit his crimes to further the Gospel of Jesus nor did he commit his crimes in the name of God, Jesus or anyone else. He did it because he was a racist that wanted to start a race war.

It had nothing to do with Christianity.

Wait, he went to a Christian church, but that doesn't make him a Christian?? There's a prophetic statement that the neocons should learn about... But that's a discussion for another time...

Ask ANY average Muslim about terrorist acts. EVERY SINGLE ONE will say - "they are not Muslim, they are terrorists". Terrorists are using their interpretations of their religion to justify what they do.

No, maybe roof didn't do it "in the name of God", but it was nothing more than terrorism. Be it ISIS or right wingers - it's based on their own perceived superiority to others.

Regardless of what you might think or are led to believe, Islam does NOT encourage killing infidels any more than does the Judaeo-Christian faith.

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Reply #33 - 05/25/17 at 12:43:09

MShipley wrote on 05/25/17 at 12:12:30:

PS, for the first time in a long time I was inspired by the way our President and First lady presented themselves and America to a foreign country over the last few days.

BWAAAHAAHAAHAAH!!!!!

Really? You're good with tweety bowing to a Saudi prince? Did you like the 2 hand slaps that melania gave tweety?

How about him being "exhausted" in 2 days - that's supposedly why he said "Islamic" instead of "Islamist". Hmmm... I don't think Obama ever made that mistake.

How about the total embarrassment of benni when tweety says "just so you understand — I never mentioned the word or the name Israel in conversation. Never mentioned it"

Yeah... he's been great! <<<<< sarcasm

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MShipley Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 681	Re: what's it gonna take? Reply #34 - 05/25/17 at 12:46:49 Once again your Bigotry and Hate are just amazing. Regardless of what you might think or are led to believe, Islam does NOT encourage killing infidels any more than does the Judaeo-Christian faith. Ref. above. If you believe this, you are simply delusional.
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Reply #35 - 05/25/17 at 13:57:18

MShipley wrote on 05/25/17 at 12:46:49:

Once again your Bigotry and Hate are just amazing.

Regardless of what you might think or are led to believe, Islam does NOT encourage killing infidels any more than does the Judaeo-Christian faith.

Ref. above. If you believe this, you are simply delusional.

Well, at least you're proud of tweety, huh?! LMAO!!!!

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WebsterMark Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 14447 Gender:	Re: what's it gonna take? Reply #36 - 05/25/17 at 15:59:42 Serowbot wrote on 05/25/17 at 12:06:05: Ten bucks Trump says somethin' stupid today... $20 bucks you do.
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Reply #38 - 05/25/17 at 16:15:58

Ask ANY average Muslim about terrorist acts. EVERY SINGLE ONE will say - "they are not Muslim, they are terrorists". Terrorists are using their interpretations of their religion to justify what they do.

Seriously, wanna put a bet on that?! Define average. An average Muslim in many places in the world think it's acceptable to blow themselves up in order to kill enemies of Allah. And remember, the nail bomber who blew those little girls apart, would have told you TT if you had asked him; "they're not Muslims, they're terrorist "

This is the point you can't seem to get is we don't know who is and who isn't a terrorist, we don't know who has and who hasn't been radicalized to the point they're ready to attack.

I said years ago, this is like fighting a war in your neighborhood against your neighbors, but your enemies are only the people born on a Tuesday, but not everyone born on Tuesday is part of the war. You look at all of them durning a block party, at the store or something and you can't tell which ones are plotting to kill you.

All we know in the real world case is there is one and only one common thread: Islam. And within that group is a subset with ties to certain Isalmic nations. We can keep narrowing that down to make the unknown group smaller and smaller, but liberalism gets in the way for nothing more than political gain. The judge who stopped the travel ban is an absolute fool, a traitor.

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Reply #39 - 05/25/17 at 16:28:30

Tell that to the 470,000 dead 117,000 detained, and 6.1 million displaced in Syria...

World report 2017...
According to the Syrian Center for Policy Research, an independent Syrian research organization, the death toll from the conflict as of February 2016 was 470,000. The spread and intensification of fighting has led to a dire humanitarian crisis, with 6.1 million internally displaced people and 4.8 million seeking refuge abroad, according to the UN Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs. By mid-2016, an estimated 1 million people were living in besieged areas and denied life-saving assistance and humanitarian aid.

More than 117,000 have been detained or disappeared since 2011, the vast majority by government forces, including 4,557 between January and June 2016, according to the Syrian Network for Human Rights. Torture and ill-treatment are rampant in detention facilities; thousands have died in detention.

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oldNslow Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 2718 Rochester, NY Gender:	Re: what's it gonna take? Reply #40 - 05/25/17 at 16:36:00 Quote: Islam does NOT encourage killing infidels Good to know. I can't help but notice though, that a bunch of Islamists seem to be doing exactly that. Probably just a coincidence.
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Reply #41 - 05/25/17 at 17:37:42

WebsterMark wrote on 05/25/17 at 16:15:58:

Ask ANY average Muslim about terrorist acts. EVERY SINGLE ONE will say - "they are not Muslim, they are terrorists". Terrorists are using their interpretations of their religion to justify what they do.

Seriously, wanna put a bet on that?! Define average. An average Muslim in many places in the world think it's acceptable to blow themselves up in order to kill enemies of Allah. And remember, the nail bomber who blew those little girls apart, would have told you TT if you had asked him; "they're not Muslims, they're terrorist "

This is the point you can't seem to get is we don't know who is and who isn't a terrorist, we don't know who has and who hasn't been radicalized to the point they're ready to attack.

DUH!!... we can't predict who's going to run his car into a group of people or shoot at the car next to them because they got cut off... There are no such things as pre-cogs in this world...

I said years ago, this is like fighting a war in your neighborhood against your neighbors, but your enemies are only the people born on a Tuesday, but not everyone born on Tuesday is part of the war. You look at all of them durning a block party, at the store or something and you can't tell which ones are plotting to kill you.

See my statement above (especially if you're a minority...)

All we know in the real world case is there is one and only one common thread: Islam. And within that group is a subset with ties to certain Isalmic nations. We can keep narrowing that down to make the unknown group smaller and smaller, but liberalism gets in the way for nothing more than political gain. The judge who stopped the travel ban is an absolute fool, a traitor.

LOL - no, liberalism doesn't get in the way - common sense (and the Constitution) steers us from the cliff! That cliff has a slippery slope. You start banning Muslims, then what about radical Jews? Then what about non-Christians all together? Then what about certain Christian sects? etc... etc....etc

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T And T Garage Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 9839	Re: what's it gonna take? Reply #42 - 05/25/17 at 17:39:04 oldNslow wrote on 05/25/17 at 16:36:00: Quote: Islam does NOT encourage killing infidels Good to know. I can't help but notice though, that a bunch of Islamists seem to be doing exactly that. Probably just a coincidence. And it's a good thing that Christians never kill infidels.... oh wait...
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Reply #43 - 05/25/17 at 17:51:31

T And T Garage wrote on 05/25/17 at 17:39:04:

oldNslow wrote on 05/25/17 at 16:36:00:

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Islam does NOT encourage killing infidels

Good to know. I can't help but notice though, that a bunch of Islamists seem to be doing exactly that. Probably just a coincidence. Roll Eyes

And it's a good thing that Christians never kill infidels.... oh wait...

Even if true, that's utterly and totally irrelevant to the present state of affairs. It isn't Christians, or atheists, or Druids, or fill in the blank_____, who are doing it right now, in the name of their religious ideology. But we both know who is. Don't we?

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Reply #44 - 05/25/17 at 17:59:24

T And T Garage wrote on 05/25/17 at 17:39:04:

oldNslow wrote on 05/25/17 at 16:36:00:

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Islam does NOT encourage killing infidels

Good to know. I can't help but notice though, that a bunch of Islamists seem to be doing exactly that. Probably just a coincidence. Roll Eyes

And it's a good thing that Christians never kill infidels.... oh wait...

In the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit? Pretty darn rare. When you hear a story about a bomb going off in a subway killing dozens, no one's first thought is another Christian just blew himself up.

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