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06/09/17 at 19:40:27
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https://www.quora.com/How-accurate-is-Bill-Warner-in-describing-political-Isl...
What an outstanding argument, here is the the very first paragraph.
Bill Warner’s analysis is scientifically sound. His analysis of the the Quran is objective and based on numbers and numbers alone. Very dispassionate and very scientific. There is no dispute in my mind about it.
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T And T Garage wrote
on 06/09/17 at 07:30:35:
https://www.quora.com/How-accurate-is-Bill-Warner-in-describing-political-Isl...
What an outstanding argument, here is the the very first paragraph.
Bill Warner’s analysis is scientifically sound. His analysis of the the Quran is objective and based on numbers and numbers alone. Very dispassionate and very scientific. There is no dispute in my mind about it.
Best regards,
And there you have it - ignorance on display! Too funny! Leave it to you to ignore the all the rest of an article that you don't like....
What a sad little mind... Here ya golfer - read the rest:
But there are 2 major problems with his conclusions:
1 The idea that Islam is one big monster that is hell bent on world domination and its followers are all oriented toward achieving that goal. Bill Warner is American. Americans have this tendency to believe that they are the natural beings of the planet and that any other society based on any other model that is radically different from theirs is an alien presence.
The same attitude was adopted while dealing with Communism back in the days of the Cold War. After WW2, the USSR did install puppet governments in Eastern Europe as a buffer zone for itself. This became the American model of understanding Communism. So for example, when Communism arrived in Vietnam, it was not seen as a result of Vietnamese history or people, but instead was seen as the encroachment of another nation by the big, red, monolithic machine controlled from Moscow. It was assumed that once Vietnam became Communist, all other SE Asian nations will fall, completely ignoring the different histories and pasts of each of these nations. Similarly, when Cuba became Communist, it was seen as an action of the USSR, again the monolithic machine in action. No attention is given to the fact that the people of Cuba were fed up with the corrupt government of Batista.
The same mistake is being made in the case of Islam. Warner completely ignores the internal rivalries within Islam. For instance the war for influence between Shia Iran and Sunni Saudi Arabia. Instead, he focuses only on pan Islamism. Pan Islamism is a South Asian phenomenon. It is prevalent only in the minds of the Indian, Pakistani and the Bangladeshi Muslim. By doing so, he is making the same mistake that the Americans made during the Cold War that caused them to be involved in foolish endeavors like the Vietnam War and the Bay of Pigs.
2 Warner frequently mentions that many Christian lands fell to Islam. He argues that Turkey was one Greek. It is not 99.7% Muslim. Christianity has been almost wiped out of Iraq, Iran, Egypt etc. He is factually correct. But then, he again goes back to the argument of Islam being the monolithic beast hell bent of World domination. As a counter one can say, there was no Christian in the North and South American continents, 600 years ago. Now both these continents are 95% plus Christian. The US itself was built upon the corpses of millions of Native Americans who were systematically eradicated.
Conclusion:
While i do not dispute his study of the Quran, I do question the conclusions he arrives from it.
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And there you have it - ignorance on display! Too funny! Leave it to you to ignore the all the rest of an article that you don't like....
What a sad little mind... Here ya golfer - read the rest:
[i]But there are 2 major problems with his conclusions:
We know you are really lacking a sound argument when you include lackluster insults to provide support for a feeble argument.
Communism has nothing to do with Islam.......
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pg wrote
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T And T Garage wrote
on 06/10/17 at 12:21:27:
And there you have it - ignorance on display! Too funny! Leave it to you to ignore the all the rest of an article that you don't like....
What a sad little mind... Here ya golfer - read the rest:
[i]But there are 2 major problems with his conclusions:
We know you are really lacking a sound argument when you include lackluster insults to provide support for a feeble argument.
Communism has nothing to do with Islam.......
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Learn to read and comprehend....
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Learn to read and comprehend....
Just another petty insult because you cannot provide a solid argument,
any juvenile can provide scorn..........
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pg wrote
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T And T Garage wrote
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Learn to read and comprehend....
Just another petty insult because you cannot provide a solid argument,
any juvenile can provide scorn..........
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U
m, I posted the rest of the article... read it and comprehend.... get it? Just like a typical con - only read what you want to read....
smh......
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smh......
SO MUCH HATE.....
Yes I read the article and there is not argument. How if you wanted to make a comparison to an ideology that can propagate you choose a fine example. Communism is directly attributed to the slaughter of 100 million non-combative civilians.
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T And T Garage wrote
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smh......
SO MUCH HATE.....
Yes I read the article and there is not argument. How if you wanted to make a comparison to an ideology that can propagate you choose a fine example. Communism is directly attributed to the slaughter of 100 million non-combative civilians.
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No - Shake My Head
I do that in the face of ignorance.
I'm pointing out that people like you are running, hiding and pointing fingers at the "terrible Muslims". You people thrive on fear. You take incidences out of context (your post, case in point) and you try to make other weak minded people follow your fear.
I have more faith in my country and its people. Sorry to disappoint, but there is NO sharia law in this country. The buffoons that held marches against it this weekend might have just as well marched against being ruled by Khan from Star Trek. The same goes for communism. People with your same feeble minded fear is what drove the mccarthy hearings.
I don't subscribe to paranoia or fear of what I don't understand. I learn about it.
You should try that sometime.
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06/12/17 at 08:04:03
Yeah... what the heck does this guy know, right?:
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-pope-islam-idUSKCN10B0YO
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Yes, yes, the same media that conned America into the Nam war, taking shots, Iraq, and so many more lies has slandered McCarthy. And he was right.
ASHINGTON -- Although Joseph McCarthy was one of the most demonized American politicians of the last century, new information -- including half-century-old FBI recordings of Soviet embassy conversations -- are showing that McCarthy was right in nearly all his accusations.
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Yes, yes, the same media that conned America into the Nam war, taking shots, Iraq, and so many more lies has slandered McCarthy. And he was right.
ASHINGTON -- Although Joseph McCarthy was one of the most demonized American politicians of the last century, new information -- including half-century-old FBI recordings of Soviet embassy conversations -- are showing that McCarthy was right in nearly all his accusations.
BWAAAHAAHAAHAAHAAHAAAAAAA!!!!!!
Oh boy... that was funny! Thanks for the laugh!
FYI -
“McCarthyism,” as the hunt for communists in the United States came to be known during the 1950s, did untold damage to many people’s lives and careers, had a muzzling effect on domestic debate on Cold War issues, and managed to scare millions of Americans. McCarthy, however, located no communists and his personal power collapsed in 1954 when he accused the Army of coddling known communists. Televised hearings of his investigation into the U.S. Army let the American people see his bullying tactics and lack of credibility in full view for the first time, and he quickly lost support. The U.S. Senate censured him shortly thereafter and he died in 1957.
(History Channel)
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06/12/17 at 14:31:40
McCarthy taught us to be afraid of Charlie Chaplin...
Lucille Ball,.. Danny Kaye...
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McCarthy taught us to be afraid of Charlie Chaplin...
Lucille Ball,.. Danny Kaye...
So that is the, ’same’, as being aware, and defensive,
to people that come here, under,
FALSE
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who, OPENLY’ say, the are here,
“TO KILL YOU”
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McCarthy taught us to be afraid of Charlie Chaplin...
Lucille Ball,.. Danny Kaye...
J.Edgar hated Charlie because Charlie saw right through the corrupt, power mad S.O.B.
Islam ??? Christians ??? More humans have been killed in the name of religion.. Different religion ? Even different sects of the same religion.
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Serowbot wrote
on 06/12/17 at 14:31:40:
McCarthy taught us to be afraid of Charlie Chaplin...
Lucille Ball,.. Danny Kaye...
J.Edgar hated Charlie because Charlie saw right through the corrupt, power mad S.O.B.
Islam ??? Christians ??? More humans have been killed in the name of religion.. Different religion ? Even different sects of the same religion.
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