verslagen1 wrote on 06/21/17 at 10:19:19:mpescatori wrote on 06/20/17 at 23:56:48:Permission to pitch in my own two cents' Worth.
The USA are not my Country and I do not pay my taxes to the USA
BUT
every time I turn on the TV I hear the same news...
How much do you pay privately to send your children to school?
Or are schools k-12 part of a Federal/State/County program ?
How much do you pay privately anytime you call 911 and ask for the Police / Fire Dept.?
Or are Police and Fire Depts. a combined Federal / State / County program ?
How much do you pay every time you drive your car/bike out of the garage and into the streets ?
Or is Vehicle Licensing and Road Maintenance part of a Federal / State / County program ?
Having said that... given that the Nation has ascertained that one needs to live in a safe and secure environment in order to work and earn one's money and pay due taxes...
...shouldn't that same Nation do all that is possible in order to make sure said Citizen is also in a fit state of health in order to work and earn his money and pay due taxes ?
Please explain why health care is like a restaurant, bread and water are free but anything else you must pay for...
Taxes for schools, police, are in the property taxes.
Roads are paid for in vehicle and fuel taxes.
And it's my understanding that in EU, bread and water are a menu item.
IMO, UHC is desirable, just not at this moment of extreme debt.
And shoulda been phased in... free emergency care with true triage of non-emergency.
Hi Verslagen
For starters, the EU is a banker's dream and the citizens' nightmare.
Having said that, water and bread are generally free of charge in the Mediterranean basin, but once you go inland (i.e. Austria, Germany, Hungary tc.) they are to be paid for, each and every bun.
Unfortunately, I feel Raydawg has misunderstood my description or my example.
It doesn't matter how rich or poor you are, K-12 schools will give you the same educaiton and once you pay your money you will get exactly the same lunch.
I find that extremely educational... only in school and in the Army will kids realize there's more to life than the label on your jeans...
On the other hand, if I am a Citizen and work and pay taxes I am (in Europe) entitld to all the health care
I need, on a case by case basis.
Trippah, you need a crown? H3LL, you need it to chew and feed yourself, go to a hospital and have it fixed free!
OK, you may be on a long'ish waiting list but hey! the budget can only afford so many patients/day.
Anyone need a ultrasound for your pregnant wife?
Go to Gyno/Obstetrician in Hospital and book it! Free !
(Oh look, there's a slot in April 2018... take it or pass?)
OK so I made fun of my own system BUT it's a fair system.
Rich teenage girls wanting a boob job at 17 will certainly NOT go to National Health Care,
but no later than 7 o'clock tonight I was in a Pediatric Hospital chatting to a Hungarian couple who had come to Rome for life-saving treatment for their 7 month old twins.
Poor as dirt, in Hungar the babies would have died (somekind of nervous atrophy) but here there's a (slim) chance they may make it to at least age 5.
European Health care will NEVER catch on in the USA for ONE simple reason: how many County/State hospitalòs are there, and how many private hospitals?
How many "Mount Lebanon / Carmel / Methodist" hospitals ?
All private - they make money outof your being ill.
In Europe, on the other hand, hospitals were joined to temples since... 3000 BC ?
So it was priests specialized in medicine who looked afetr patients...
Fast forward 5000 years to 2017, little has changed: many civil (goerment) hospitals, many run by religious orders.
But NOONE will send you away because you haven't got $1000 for a crown...
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