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07/26/17 at 09:37:32
 
Can't wait till they start stoning queers....... like those southern baptist  Grin


Jewish groups have asked Homeland Security and the U.S. Attorney's office to investigate a California Imam who gave a sermon calling on Allah to "annihilate" Jews "down to the very last one" -- and asked for his congregants to take part in the slaughter.

Imam Ammar Shahin gave the sermon at the Islamic Center of Davis, California on Friday. He asked for Allah to liberate the Al-Aqsa Mosque in Israel from "the filth of the Jews," according to a translation by the Middle East Media Research Institute, and cited an Islamic text that calls for a Judgement Day fight between Muslims and Jews.

“Oh Allah, count them one by one and annihilate them down to the very last one. Do not spare any of them,” said Shahin, who spoke in both Arabic and English during his sermon. “Oh Allah, make this happen by our hands. Let us play a part in this. Oh Allah, let us support them in words and in deeds.”

A video of the sermon was posted to the Islamic Center of Davis’ YouTube channel on Friday. Excerpts of the sermon, which lasted about two and a half minutes, were translated and posted on the MEMRI website.


The Al-Aqsa Mosque is on a holy site for both Jews and Muslims in East Jerusalem, and was the scene of a July 14 terror attack during which three Arab gunmen killed two Israeli police officers.

The shrine was closed for several days in the aftermath of the assault, canceling Friday prayers for the first time in decades. New security measures, including metal detectors, were installed, and immediately drew Palestinian condemnation.

Israel said the security measures were necessary to prevent more attacks, while Palestinians claimed Israel was trying to expand its control over the site. The issue has sparked some of the worst street clashes in years.

In a statement on its website, the Islamic Center of Davis stood behind Shahin and his sermon, saying it was taken out of context.

“The ICD will always stand against anti-Semitism similarly to how the Jewish community has always stood against Islamophobia in our close knit community,” the statement said. “We have zero tolerance for anti-Semitism or any other form of bigotry.”

It continued: “MEMRI, an extremist agenda driven organization that supports Israel’s occupation of Palestinian land, and other Islamophobic news organizations, accused Imam Shahin of anti-Semitism, quoting edited, mistranslated, passages of the sermon out of context.”

In another statement to the David Enterprise, the center said the sermon described the “theological issue regarding the apocalyptic battle between Jesus and the Antichrist,” or between good and evil – not against any particular group.

“When people believe in Jesus and hold on to the truth, God will support them. This was the purpose of citing the prophetic tradition,” the center said. “In the context of the full sermon, it becomes clear that the theme of the sermon was against oppression, and not against Jews or any religion.”

Steve Cohan, co-president of Congregation Bet Haverim in Davis, said in a statement that Shahin’s sermon was “deeply concerning” but that he looked forward to “going beyond the online media reports” and sharing his thoughts with the Islamic Center leadership.

But not everyone is being quite so understanding of Shahin's rhetoric.

The Simon Wiesenthal Center, an international Jewish human rights organization in Los Angeles, has called upon the U.S. Department of Homeland Security to launch an investigation of the Imam for “inciting to murder Jews.”

“By explicitly urging Muslims to annihilate all Jews by their own hands, Shahin has crossed the line beyond protected speech,” Rabbi Abraham Cooper and Rabbi Yitzchok Alderstein, both SWC directors, wrote in a letter to Homeland Security Secretary John Kelly.

Hamza El-Nakhal, a longtime member of the Muslim community in Davis and a former president of the Islamic Center’s executive board, told the Davis Enterprise that he found the video “disturbing.”

He said he was out of town and did not attend the Friday service.

“While I am disgusted by the action of the Israeli government in preventing Muslim people from doing their prayers in the Masjid Al-Aqsa, I am equally disgusted by any religious leader who does not take the chance (during) high unsettling times to calm their congregations,” El-Nakhal said.

“Some people like Imam Ammar Shahin become angry for injustices. He spoke while angry. He should not have given this sermon while angry.”


Don't bother TT......
Its been a tough week for you.
You should just run away like Bot has, smart man, just leave the kitchen when it gets too hot for ya.

OH..... and take some sugar, like Mary Poppins suggested, with your medicine, helps it goes down, she says  Kiss
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Reply #1 - 07/26/17 at 10:19:51
 
TT's gonna get fired. He's not controlling the narrative or limiting the topics we talk about. Nor are his attempts to conflate the attitudes toward Muslims with some equally disparaging attitude towards Christians because of some idiots who are not truly Christian..  
His silence on so many questions is just fun to watch.
Keep tossing the bombs, maybe you will get lucky and hit something..
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Reply #2 - 07/26/17 at 10:37:16
 
Maybe he ran out of his own medicine   Huh

I will venture to say, after he and Bot get out of bed, that he is overwhelmed that we can't face our meager little lives without his input...
But he has a real life, and can't spend all of it on a motorcycle message board where he doesn't care about what others think about him, or what he shares  Grin

Am I close?
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Reply #3 - 07/26/17 at 10:50:58
 
So... what's the point here ray?

You're saying this one Imam represents all of Islam?

Why not just come out and say you hate all Muslims?  Wouldn't that be easier for you?
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Reply #4 - 07/26/17 at 11:24:57
 
T And T Garage wrote on 07/26/17 at 10:50:58:
So... what's the point here ray?

You're saying this one Imam represents all of Islam?

Why not just come out and say you hate all Muslims?  Wouldn't that be easier for you?


No, that is what you do......like all Trump voters, etc.

Next question.
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Reply #5 - 07/26/17 at 11:26:08
 
raydawg wrote on 07/26/17 at 11:24:57:
T And T Garage wrote on 07/26/17 at 10:50:58:
So... what's the point here ray?

You're saying this one Imam represents all of Islam?

Why not just come out and say you hate all Muslims?  Wouldn't that be easier for you?


No, that is what you do......like all Trump voters, etc.

Next question.


Well, answer the first one then... What's your point?
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Reply #6 - 07/26/17 at 11:32:01
 
T And T Garage wrote on 07/26/17 at 11:26:08:
raydawg wrote on 07/26/17 at 11:24:57:
T And T Garage wrote on 07/26/17 at 10:50:58:
So... what's the point here ray?

You're saying this one Imam represents all of Islam?

Why not just come out and say you hate all Muslims?  Wouldn't that be easier for you?


No, that is what you do......like all Trump voters, etc.

Next question.


Well, answer the first one then... What's your point?


As if you care  Grin
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Reply #7 - 07/26/17 at 11:36:16
 
raydawg wrote on 07/26/17 at 11:32:01:
T And T Garage wrote on 07/26/17 at 11:26:08:
raydawg wrote on 07/26/17 at 11:24:57:
T And T Garage wrote on 07/26/17 at 10:50:58:
So... what's the point here ray?

You're saying this one Imam represents all of Islam?

Why not just come out and say you hate all Muslims?  Wouldn't that be easier for you?


No, that is what you do......like all Trump voters, etc.

Next question.


Well, answer the first one then... What's your point?


As if you care  Grin


I'll take that as a refusal... thanks.  I expected that.
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Reply #8 - 07/26/17 at 11:44:02
 
Keep pretending you're relevant.
Engage me in my threads that you're invited to.
And all that vitriol, over What?
Obama destroyed a COUNTRY, and nobody said squat except for people like me.
And you won't say what you WANT from all the comparison between Muslims and those nonchristian Christians.
What are you trying to prove?
Christians are as bad as Muslims so we should import them?
Oops,a Gotcha question,
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Reply #9 - 07/26/17 at 11:51:27
 
I posted about this guy yesterday. Why can't the conversation be about this guy and this situation? Why does it have to be turned into the whole group? It's not about ALL muslims and it's not about ALL Christians. It's about THIS one. Don't turn the conversation into something that it's not.
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Reply #10 - 07/26/17 at 11:58:26
 
MShipley wrote on 07/26/17 at 11:51:27:
I posted about this guy yesterday. Why can't the conversation be about this guy and this situation? Why does it have to be turned into the whole group? It's not about ALL muslims and it's not about ALL Christians. It's about THIS one. Don't turn the conversation into something that it's not.


Thus my question... what's your point ray?

C'mon - keep it real.  We all know what this is - it's a dog whistle.  Guys like you and ray put up this crap and say "oh look!  Scary Muslims!" and expect everyone to agree.

I don't, obviously.

Nowhere am I defending this lunatic either.  It's a sad situation.

But instead of just posting it under the guise "Yes, a religion of peace" - maybe you should actually make a commentary on it.

Maybe you should post it and say something to the effect of "How terrible - this is not how Muslims are."

But we know that's not your (or ray's) angle.

We're not ignorant and afraid of the "terrible Muslims".

You probably want to post on michelle bachmann's site instead....
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Reply #11 - 07/26/17 at 12:01:37
 
It's how he controls the narrative.
If his Goal isn't to disrupt the flow of ideas, it Looks like it.
We have to walk past it and do what We want.
I'm curious about why only one person replied in the thread that lists the things that Show us that things are Not As Advertised. If people want to have opinions about the events of the day, and they want to be as right as possible, then wouldn't they Want to understand the events of yesteryear that set the stage for the events of the day? Ignorance can be cured. Apply real facts and curiosity, reach outside of the propaganda. Carol Quigley, know what he did.
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Reply #12 - 07/26/17 at 12:04:18
 
Ok TT......

You SHOW ME, where I said ALL Muslims

You made an accusation based on your own bias, now prove it.
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Reply #13 - 07/26/17 at 12:10:57
 
raydawg wrote on 07/26/17 at 12:04:18:
Ok TT......

You SHOW ME, where I said ALL Muslims

You made an accusation based on your own bias, now prove it.


Um.. lol... take your meds ray... I didn't say that, I simply asked you the question - What's the point?

Now, if you don't want to answer it - fine by me.  But then that begs the question why won't you answer?  

See how that works?

So, to be clear - nowhere in this thread did I say specifically you said "all Muslims".  But again, to keep it real, we all know why you posted this.

But if I'm wrong, please tell me what your actual point was and we can discuss further....
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Reply #14 - 07/26/17 at 12:23:56
 
it real.  We all know what this is - it's a dog whistle.  Guys like you and ray put up this crap and say "oh look!  Scary Muslims!" and expect everyone to agree.

I don't, obviously.

Nowhere am I defending this lunatic either.  It's a sad situation.

But instead of just posting it under the guise "Yes, a religion of peace" - maybe you should actually make a

TT'S got a really short memory.
Dog whistle style attacks are his specialty. Innuendo and a pretense of righteous indignation, bullshit.
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