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justin_o_guy2

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07/29/17 at 07:45:47

“As poles of good and evil, he was offered two conceptions: egoism and altruism. Egoism was held to mean the sacrifice of others to self. Altruism—the sacrifice of self to others. This tied man irrevocably to other men and left him nothing but a choice of pain: his own pain borne for the sake of others or pain inflicted upon others for the sake of self…Man was forced to accept masochism as his ideal—under the threat that sadism was his only alternative.”

Are these messages a part of today's narrative?

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Reply #1 - 07/29/17 at 10:34:24

Forced, and free will, opposing factions that can never be threaded together, in a tapestry of life.
But, as a 24 hour clock, a cycle, a fact, an absolute that governs mans life, he lives, and dies, to its dictate.
Part of that cycle is night, and day....... a fact.
You can go inside a large structure, escape the effects of night, but not of night itself.
As with darkness, it can never overcome the effects of light, but succumbs to the power, light has over darkness, even tho one might close their eyes to it.....
Mans freewill, is his power over all other things.
How he uses it, decides his fate.

So no, I do not agree with this assessment assigned to mankind.
As will evil, it shall always be present in our world, however, it can never win over, love, never.

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Reply #2 - 07/29/17 at 11:18:38

Wow,, you READ that, and that is your understanding?
Lay your bible down.
It's about the pressures of society to drive people into disregard for the individual in support of the Group.
To not Do Well for Self, because to do so can Only be accomplished by taking from others.
A Masochistic Altruism in the search for being a part of the collective rather than
being a victimiser.
As if achievement is somehow hurtful to others NECESSARILY.

IT'S a false choice.

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raydawg Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 11551 pacific northwest Gender:	Re: Your thoughts? Reply #3 - 07/29/17 at 12:43:19 IT'S a false choice. We agree Just explain it, differently
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Your thoughts? Reply #4 - 07/29/17 at 13:07:36 Read it again and focus on the words and sentence structure. A junior high kid can comprehend the meaning.
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Trippah Serious Thumper Offline I ride, therefore I am. Posts: 2517 central Mass Gender:	Re: Your thoughts? Reply #5 - 07/29/17 at 13:56:51 As a quick thought, no masochism and altruism are not the only choices, nor is man tied to just one or the other. We all choose numero uno over all others, unless we see someone in desperate straights, or me or the children. Some would still choose numero uno (I bet you are thinking of the Donald) although He Said he had made sacrifices.
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Your thoughts? Reply #6 - 07/29/17 at 14:35:27 “As poles of good and evil, he was offered two conceptions: The social pressures operate from there in the push toward Group over Individual. Read for understanding the Concept
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raydawg Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 11551 pacific northwest Gender:	Re: Your thoughts? Reply #7 - 07/29/17 at 17:39:33 justin_o_guy2 wrote on 07/29/17 at 13:07:36: Read it again and focus on the words and sentence structure. A junior high kid can comprehend the meaning. A little snippy are we.....??? Are you and TT twins, by any chance, separated at birth?
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Your thoughts?g Reply #8 - 07/29/17 at 17:44:16 I already explained it.
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raydawg Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 11551 pacific northwest Gender:	Re: Your thoughts?g Reply #9 - 07/29/17 at 19:05:50 justin_o_guy2 wrote on 07/29/17 at 17:44:16: I already explained it. Well gee, perhaps maybe next time instead of titling your post as " Your thoughts", why not try "Agree with me or shut up"
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Your thoughts? Reply #10 - 07/29/17 at 19:32:40 It's not about agreement it's about reading your reply and having to re-read my post, because your reply was so distant from the original post.
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Re: Your thoughts?
Reply #11 - 07/29/17 at 21:41:18

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 07/29/17 at 19:32:40:

It's not about agreement it's about reading your reply and having to re-read my post, because your reply was so distant from the original post.

So different, or another perspective.......
It really doesn't matter.

You went a fish'n.
I cast out too.
You didn't like what I caught.
So, you said that ain't what you wanna catch.
But, its still, fish'n Grin

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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Your thoughts? Reply #12 - 07/30/17 at 06:46:22 And fishn is good.
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raydawg Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 11551 pacific northwest Gender:	Re: Your thoughts? Reply #13 - 07/30/17 at 09:57:38 justin_o_guy2 wrote on 07/30/17 at 06:46:22: And fishn is good. So is crabbing, which, I shall be doing from the boat, later today. I shall, therefor, hopefully, be crabby, later. However, not in the same manner, as TT
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