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justin_o_guy2
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08/21/17 at 19:11:48
 
Per my observations
Not a 100* day yet.

Got eight inches of rain last week.

After all these years of ever increasing temperatures, it's not as hot.

Howcumizzat I wunner?

Maybe I'm not qualified to judge what my thermometer and rain gauge say, because I'm not a trained meteorological genius..
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Reply #1 - 08/22/17 at 08:22:49
 

 So is this a "global" warming assessment?

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Reply #2 - 08/22/17 at 08:38:00
 
That was modified.
It SAID
But others are
And there Was a link.
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Reply #3 - 08/22/17 at 11:53:16
 
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Reply #4 - 08/22/17 at 12:28:16
 

 The problem I have with statistics like that article is that its half about science and half about Al Gore.

 Where I live the most the weather is warmer, in the past 4 years we have had the highest temps on record.  I can't use that as an argument for global warming because there are way too many variables.

 The warming debate is like debating if seatbelts save lives, too many variables and everyone knows a guy who knew two people in a wreck where the one wearing a seatbelt died and the one without lived.  

 I don't know why taking steps to evaluate and combat potential climate warming is a bad idea.  I might not live to retirement age but I'll still invest.
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Reply #5 - 08/22/17 at 12:44:31
 
The climate doesn't bother me it's been in Flux since God created climate. What does worry me is what man thinks he's going to do about it.
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Reply #6 - 08/22/17 at 15:02:43
 
Well, some people think they have the answer. Just pay the carbon tax and everything is going to be fine.
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Reply #7 - 08/22/17 at 16:20:36
 
‘Climate Change’, IS:
(As MShipley  said)  “it’s been in Flux since God created climate”.

And believing in that;
Does,  NOT,  mean, that the believers of that,
    “Throw Tires in the Ditch”

In  Actual   FACT !!!!!!!!!!
Used to get Milk in Glass Bottles,
and then, Return them to be filled again.


Used to get,  ‘Paper’ Bags, which were, ‘re used’, or used as Book Covers, or in the Garden next to plants so weeds would not grow, then end of season, became part of the soil. Used to make  ‘masks’ at  Halloween. Used to put extras in the recycle bin, which the next year, you never knew they were their.

Etc.,  Etc.,   Etc.,  Etc., and on and on and on.

So,  ‘WHO”, decided to make things, out of something,
that will last, 500 Years, yet, everyone, ’Throws Away’ ?

A  Car/Truck/M.C., emissions, is but a  ’speck of sand on the beach’.

But   EVERYONE, that believes in that,
Does, Not do little things like, a higher MPG  vehicle, or, LED  light bulbs, or saying,  ‘Paper’, at the store, etc. etc. etc.
And of course, their are,  ALL  NAZI’s.  
    (As we have been told)

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Ben Franklin once said: "If you give up a freedom, for the sake of security, you will have neither".
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Reply #8 - 08/22/17 at 17:08:37
 
The Idiot tree huggers decided plastic is better than paper.
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Reply #9 - 08/22/17 at 19:28:11
 
A  60,  ‘Watt’,  incandescent  Light Bulb.
Gives off a certain amount of, ‘Light’.
We all know, what light, a, ’60 Watt’, Bulb gives off,
So if we need more, ya go to a  75, or a 100, etc.
if less, a 40 or a 20,  ‘WATT’.
    (In incandescent)
That amount of light, we just, ‘know’, by the, ‘Watts’.
   (In a incandescent bulb)

Today,  (Actually 100+ Years ago), which is gaining in knowledge, as in last 10 years.
 ‘Lumens’,  are the measurement of the, ‘amount’, of, light.

To equate, a, incandescent 60 watt light bulb, gives off the ‘light’ of about, 800-840, ‘Lumens’.
   (And it uses,   ’60 Watts of  Power’.
A,  LED,  (Light Emitting diode)  started to become  common, in the early 60’s
   (The little red light on your TV, or  Microwave, etc, it is a  LED)
  And that TINY  light uses a, TINY  FRACTION, of a  Watt

The Beauty part, about a a LED, is,
 If it gives off,  800 - 840,  Lumens,  
It will use  9  - 12  Watts, of Electricity,  NOT   60  Watts !!!!!
  Depending on quality of components, Life, Color  (Kelvin degrees)
  Bright white, 6,000 - 5,000,  White, 5,000 - 4,000, Warm white, 4,000-3000.
     (Bright sunlight is about 6,500, a candle burning is about, 2,000-1,200)

So looking at, 800 +  Lumens, and same time on.
  A incandescent  Light Bulb, costs, 1.00  Lasts about a year, and uses  60 Watts.
   A, CFL light bulb, costs, 2.00, lasts about 4-6 years, and uses about 30 Watts.
    A, LED light bulb, costs 4.00, lasts 20-30 Years, and uses about  9 - 12 Watts.

So, when you need to replace a burnt out  Light bulb, what you gonna replace it with ?

A Word on, ‘CFL’s’.
CFL =  ‘Compact Florescent Light’.  
Gee,  who was that guy that invented the Internet, ?
HE SAID,   “BUY CLF’s”

Examine, a  ‘CFL’,  It has a  ‘Ballast’, containing, Polychlorinated Biphenyls (PCB)
The, ‘bulb’, contains,  mercury-vapor.
  (Yep,  Gore says  just toss it in the trash when it goes out!)
To note: Polychlorinated Biphenyls (PCB), were,  ‘Banned’ in production in the USA, late 70’s.
  (GEE, where do all the CLF’s Come From ????????????)

Yep, I had, CFL’s, a few, I recycled them when they burnt out.
And replaced them with LED’s  (SAFE)
  (Think I paid  7.95  (on sale), for my first one)
Now I buy them at, (820 Lumens), for 5.95 for 4. On Sale.

Almost have all the incandescent ones replaces,  Just  One  CFL  left left.
So between the House, Barn, Shed, Office, Pole barn,
Probably 50  light bulbs.
At 60 Watts each, that's, 3,000 Watts,
With LED’s  600  Watts.  
     (Same Amount of  Light)

Significant drop on Elect Bill.
Yet, elect bill,  (Per  Kilowatt) keeps,  ‘creeping’, up.
   Why is That ?

If you want to get,  ‘Ahead of the Curve’.
And want to get LED’s.
  LOOK CLOSELY, at the Box,

Some brands will say,  IN BIG LETTERS, "60 Watt Equivalent”.
  LOOK,  Read  the,   Very FINE Print,
Where is says’   ‘500-600’,  Lumens’.
 500-600,  IS  NOT   800-840,
Regardless of any,  ’New  Math’.

 But hey,  China,  LIED ?
  the,  ‘Mart Mart, lied by selling those?
   And you are going to do, ‘what’, ?????????

Knowledge is  POWER,  Lack of Knowledge is  LACK  of Power.
 
Inform others, ( Even if they have a form of, Hypothermia).

(O.B.T.Y.   a   incandescent  bulb  Will give off light at  -20
  A  CFL   will NOT,
       A  LED Will)

But,  ’Never Mind’,  (As  Gilda would say).
Because I believe, the grain of sand on the beach, called,  Cars/Man,
Has no bearing on the climate changes this, ’Spaceship’, has.
And of course,
   I throw all my used tires in the  Ditch!

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Reply #10 - 08/22/17 at 20:59:12
 

 Are CFLs vs LED connected to global warming?  Or is this thread about Al Gore?
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Reply #11 - 08/23/17 at 08:09:16
 
Eegore wrote on 08/22/17 at 20:59:12:
 Are CFLs vs LED connected to global warming?  Or is this thread about Al Gore?


Well, if the Less  electricity, garnered by use of LED  Light bulbs.
Was used by, ‘Everybody’.
 Just think of how much, Less Coal would burn to make that electricity?

Surely, that,  would help to clean things up.
 No  ?
 Oh then just the same, as a Person, riding a bicycle, in the rain, to work,
Because his, ‘car’, is polluting !

The ‘point’, was that, Just because, a person does, NOT,
believe in the, ‘Fear Mongering’, they are told to.
Does Not mean they throw tires in the Ditch.

Oh, and  Gore, and his love of CLF’s,
 Yep, I Just had to put a DIG in,
 Of a person who  has a  VERY  BIG, ‘carbon footprint’,
Telling everyone else,  ‘pay the ‘carbon’ TAX, and everything will be all right’.
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