Eegore wrote on 12/06/21 at 15:35:51:



Eegore has stated his requirements for belief, I think if Eegore is provided these things he would have more questions fired off in his mind by the minimal information he was given in the presentation.

If there isn't much there (content-wise) Eegore and many in the peanut gallery will come up with lists of things they need to know before they will make an order.

Rossi is saying he thinks you won't believe until you have a unit you can touch and watch it perform to know it works.

Is this his comment on human nature, or jest some Rossi "salesmanship", or mebbe both at the same time?

My "minimum information" needed is providing an economical single room 4 degrees bumper heater for my den.   I already have the resistance heater, I just need the Rossi power supply unit.





Amazon sells a 1000 watt gas generator for $200.    Harbor Freight sells a 1400 watt model for $449.   A Rossi unit would be quieter and could be run inside the house.

IF the little Rossi generator is very contained and portable, I could do my outside freezer for a half day every other day, followed by keeping my fridge hooked which would keep my food going in case of a major power outage.   I could cook with a small hot plate and a frying pan.   At 1200 watts, this would be my biggest single power usage item.

"Rossi is saying he thinks you won't believe until you have a unit you can touch and watch it perform to know it works."

 I would say this is fundamentally untrue as I do not need to drive every car to test it's gas mileage or fly every plane to see if it is airworthy.  I doubt most people need to buy and own an item to trust the Certifications associated with it.  Certifications and verified testing exist for these reasons.  Avoiding international standards as well as all forms of testing then saying you can only believe it if you buy it is scam territory.  

 If I told you I had a car that could drive 2000 miles on one gallon, and also said you could only believe it if you bought one, incidentally the only way I would let you see proof, would you be ok with that?  Wouldn't you want to know why I won't let a driver from MotorTrend drive it in a closed course, while I observe?  NHTSA can't observe this either.  The only way to know is to purchase, and I won't make this car unless 1 million "orders" which are really just pledges because no money or even real names are required.

 That sounds like a good way to sell millions of these cars?

 Rossi is dodging having his light tested for a reason and that reason can't possibly be because the light has to be disassembled to test if it produces more energy that what is placed into it.  No light requires this.

 As far as ordering goes I "ordered" 36 lights to be distributed in pairs to various locations for testing if they ever actually get made.

 There's a typo, I have 26 not 36  on order.

 Either way, I would think this is something he should be doing on his own if he wants more sales.  Why wouldn't he?

jcstokes wrote on 12/08/21 at 09:58:01:



JC, please tell us exactly what you are referring to with your $650US .......    Is it buying 26 lights at $25 each ????

Of, since Eegore has spent the money, I will sit and watch. Current $US-$$NZ isn't very good, plus possible months of shipping delays due to COVID doesn't help either.

"since these are self powered, they should be big with mj farmers"

 Exactly.  In CO especially since Medical and Recreational marijuana are legal.  Some of these facilities run over 20k a month in electrical from what I have been told.  I will not provide evidence of this.

 This light claims to have no UV, and I think marijuana uses but does not require UV lighting.  In any case there is more money in lights in this industry than actual lighting companies in CO.

I watched Rossi verbalize a breadboard prototype demo of his very tiny power station.    Rossi's English is abysmal at best and his voice is very rough.

Shown this level of demo, I (like the folks who visited his labs earlier) would not invest large amounts of money, time or influence in Rossi's work as it is.  

I like them would say "get back with me when you have a usable salable product."


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Rossi needs to put enough of his little square units in a box with a handle on top of it such that they make a watts comparable unit with the same output as a very small gas generator makes.

Then he needs to state the unit life span (in hours) of this generator at whatever rate of power he is going to claim.    And put a price on it.

Saying your want $249 to power a 100 watt incandescent light bulb simply means that you won't sell anything.

To say I am "completely underwhelmed" at this point is a bit of an understatement.


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Lastly, get a native American "talking head" to present your product properly.   We cannot understand your broken English.