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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	It's time 09/20/17 at 20:29:15 Everybody knows it http://climatealarmism.news
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Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 29692 Tucson Az Gender:	Re: It's time Reply #1 - 09/21/17 at 07:48:45 So sayeth Mikey...
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: It's time Reply #2 - 09/21/17 at 18:21:44 What did the SighUnTists tell us would happen? Arctic Rescue SighUnTists from the ice that was supposed to be melted. Hurricanes Mo Bigger, Mo Uvemm, TWELVE YEARS, nada.. Name SOMETHING they told us that happened. Any bub who was even half as wrong for half as long and all you Warmlarmists would be laughing at the idiots who were so duped.
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thumperclone Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline PGR rider riding with respect Posts: 7284 Grand Junction Colorado Gender:	Re: It's time Reply #3 - 09/23/17 at 07:40:55 strongest recorded hurricane ever 2 days of 185 mph winds fake news? not!
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Reply #4 - 09/23/17 at 08:16:25

No, it's not, but it's not proof of anything if it was.
Remember, for over twenty years we've been getting that line of crap about how hurricanes would be bigger and MORE COMMON.
And for twelve years
Frikken nothing burgers..

Now you get some activity and suddenly it's Global Warming, Phhht.

http://climatechangedispatch.com/is-irma-really-the-strongest-hurricane-ever/...

Try real science.
The SighUnTists you guys are following are discredited.

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MnSpring Serious Thumper Offline Younger than most people my age. Posts: 10593 Minn Gender:	Re: It's time Reply #5 - 09/23/17 at 16:25:16 Serowbot wrote on 09/21/17 at 07:48:45: So sayeth Mikey... So, Mikey said: “Try it, you will like it” (In a commercial about a cereal, which apparently people had, a ‘pre-conceived’, notion about) I Wonder, if some, will, ’TRY’, the TRUTH ? Before they tout the words, They are TOLD, to say ?
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Eegore Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 9917	Re: It's time Reply #6 - 09/25/17 at 06:13:39 Is the collective satellite data over 20 years completely wrong? I'm not interested much in predictions, who's rescued where etc. as its anecdotal and can be selected information to prove personal opinion over long term statistical data. NASA satellite imagery indicates a warmer planet, are those images wrong?
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Reply #7 - 09/25/17 at 06:26:23

I have no idea if they are wrong, or if we are being lied to. But, it was certainly big news when the ships got jammed u p.
You can be disinterested in the predictions, but the Warmlarmists USE those as clubs. They point to them and use them for support for their agenda. My point is to keep rubbing their faces in the fact that in twenty years NOTHING has come true. What scientists do you listen to for decades if they are perpetually wrong? Science is rational. Continuing to believe someone who is always Wrong isn't.
Why should I trust NASA?
I'm okay with my eyes.
And the medieval warm period is something else the Warmlarmists are unwilling to discuss.

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Reply #8 - 09/25/17 at 06:46:49

While 2016—and 2015 and 2014, the two previous record-holders for hottest year—may have been unusual, it’s worth asking: How likely or unlikely would this extreme weather be, without humans’ influence on climate?

One new study, published in Geophysical Review Letters on August 10, concludes that recent heat records would be vanishingly unlikely without humans loading the “climate dice” by artificially adding heat.

The study finds that the 2014-2016 streak of record-breaking heat had less than a 1-in-3,000 chance of occurring in the absence of human-caused warming. Human influence increased the odds in the heat streak’s favor, making it a 1-in-100 event.

In particular, the unusual warmth of 2016 would’ve been a one-in-a-million event in a world without human-caused warming. With humans loading the dice, however, the likelihood of 2016’s temperatures increased to as high as 27 percent.

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Reply #9 - 09/25/17 at 06:52:49

Earth
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Ice
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Warmest based on measurements from WHERE? By whom?
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Reply #10 - 09/25/17 at 07:38:17

JOg, throwing a hodgepodge of cut n' paste up is lazy...
Do ever read the links you post?...

Just one example from your mishmash... (I Googled the actual article)...
"Why is Antarctic sea ice increasing? - Skeptical Science"
https://www.skepticalscience.com/increasing-Antarctic-Southern-sea-ice.htm

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First of all, it’s worth remembering that sea ice is not to be confused with land ice. This distinction might seem obvious, but the two are often confused in media reports. Sea ice is frozen seawater floating on the surface, whereas land ice is a layer of snow that has accumulated over time on a landmass. Antarctica is losing land ice at an accelerating rate.

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In conclusion, the increase of southern sea ice does not contradict global warming. The Southern Ocean is in fact warming, the increase of sea ice is due to a variety of factors, and sea ice is not as important to the Antarctic climate as it is to the Arctic.

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Reply #11 - 09/25/17 at 07:52:25

The bottom line is the temp is a full 1 degree c lower than predicted by the IPCC reports. There has to be an explanation for that.

Seems the most likely explanations are:
1) judgement was clouded by over zealous global warming scientists
2) climate science is still in its infancy and can't yet understand all the variables involved
3) a combination of 1&2

I say 3 is most likely.

I know some morons who like to point to the recent eclipse and say 'see, this proves scientist are right and you're a fool for doubting climate change', but I would point out simply go back in time a couple hundred years and see just how wrong the scientist of those days were.

Climate science may be barely past the "Galileo" phase for all we know....

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Reply #12 - 09/25/17 at 08:42:56

WebsterMark wrote on 09/25/17 at 07:52:25:

The bottom line is the temp is a full 1 degree c lower than predicted by the IPCC reports. There has to be an explanation for that.

Again,.. spouting ludicrous facts with nothing to support them.

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General
Warming of the atmosphere and ocean system is unequivocal. Many of the associated impacts such as sea level change (among other metrics) have occurred since 1950 at rates unprecedented in the historical record.
There is a clear human influence on the climate
It is extremely likely that human influence has been the dominant cause of observed warming since 1950, with the level of confidence having increased since the fourth report.
IPCC pointed out that the longer we wait to reduce our emissions, the more expensive it will become.

Projections

Further warming will continue if emissions of greenhouse gases continue.
The global surface temperature increase by the end of the 21st century is likely to exceed 1.5 °C relative to the 1850 to 1900 period for most scenarios, and is likely to exceed 2.0 °C for many scenarios
The global water cycle will change, with increases in disparity between wet and dry regions, as well as wet and dry seasons, with some regional exceptions.
The oceans will continue to warm, with heat extending to the deep ocean, affecting circulation patterns.
Decreases are very likely in Arctic sea ice cover, Northern Hemisphere spring snow cover, and global glacier volume
Global mean sea level will continue to rise at a rate very likely to exceed the rate of the past four decades
Changes in climate will cause an increase in the rate of CO2 production. Increased uptake by the oceans will increase the acidification of the oceans.
Future surface temperatures will be largely determined by cumulative CO2, which means climate change will continue even if CO2 emissions are stopped.

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Reply #13 - 09/25/17 at 08:44:05

Climate science may be barely past the "Galileo" phase for all we know....

The more I think about it, the more this thought deserves more discussion.

Galileo was what; 500 years ago? Capernicus was a couple hundred before that maybe. Between them and Einstein was Newton and others. For 700 years we've been studying planetary motion, gravity etc.... And how long did it take before accurate predictions were able to be made? Before we had a grasp everting to the point we could launch rockets that land on other planets, that landed on a moving comet?

Global Warming research has been around for what; 30 years? And it was hijacked by politicians (chiefly Al Gore) and turned into political issue 16 or 17 years ago which certainly seems like it has corrupted research much in the same way Galileo had to fight the church.

Why should we / how could we believe we know with certainty anything we're talking about when it comes to planetary climate and how the variables caused by the constantly changing human factor impact the climate? And why is that impact automatically considered bad?

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Reply #14 - 09/25/17 at 08:52:38

It takes science to battle science...
You are working with only 3% of the ammo...
That means,.. you is gonna' lose... Grin

The only "proofs" I see from the Right,.. are distortions of stats and evidence...

As I already evidenced here...
Serowbot wrote on 09/25/17 at 07:38:17:

Just one example from your mishmash... (I Googled the actual article)...
"Why is Antarctic sea ice increasing? - Skeptical Science"
https://www.skepticalscience.com/increasing-Antarctic-Southern-sea-ice.htm

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First of all, it’s worth remembering that sea ice is not to be confused with land ice. This distinction might seem obvious, but the two are often confused in media reports. Sea ice is frozen seawater floating on the surface, whereas land ice is a layer of snow that has accumulated over time on a landmass. Antarctica is losing land ice at an accelerating rate.

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In conclusion, the increase of southern sea ice does not contradict global warming. The Southern Ocean is in fact warming, the increase of sea ice is due to a variety of factors, and sea ice is not as important to the Antarctic climate as it is to the Arctic.

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