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Re: Political Deflection 101
Reply #15 - 09/23/17 at 16:57:23
 
And, OH,
No  Opinion, on, Al Franken.
 As a: “ sleazy, buck-passing, finger-pointing, deflecting, politician”
  (And I would add: 'a  Lying, Cheating, Steeling, PUPPET')
From the  Resident of  Chicago ????????
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Ben Franklin once said: "If you give up a freedom, for the sake of security, you will have neither".
Which is More TRUE, today, than yesterday.('06, S-40, Stock) well, mostly .
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Reply #16 - 09/24/17 at 06:17:21
 
I was in Chicago last week and it's like all major US cities, only bigger, broker and even more impossible to fix. I drove up from Indy and cut through the south side to pick up Lake Shore Drive heading into downtown.That route takes you through Jackson Park or some name like that. It's an area politicians and elites like to refer to "historical" or "diverse" or if they're gonna  feeling 1% honest, they'll say "economically challenged ".   Regular people  call it a $hithole, getto, 3rd world etc...  

In my brief drive through, numerous people just wandered across  the street in traffic expecting cars to stop which is thing on St Louis as well.

Downtown Chicago was great as always; on the outside anyway. If they were a corporation, they'd have to declare bankruptcy and the owners & officers would be brought up on criminal charges. But, it's run by liberal Democrats which means they'll just keep raising taxes until they've bled everyone dry and then you and I will pay for it. That's how it works.
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Reply #17 - 09/24/17 at 07:31:05
 
pg wrote on 09/23/17 at 14:07:39:
Not only do you own it, you have to endure it.

CHICAGO (Reuters) - Illinois’ pile of unpaid bills topped $16 billion for the first time as the state deals with the fallout of an unprecedented two straight fiscal years without complete budgets, the state comptroller’s office reported on Tuesday.

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BWAAAAHAAHAAAHAAHAAAAA - hey genius, did you actually read past the first word??

ILLINOIS is in budget crisis - NOT Chicago.

Here, lemme school you further, m'kay?

Federal data show that just 20 counties nationwide accounted for half of new businesses created in the U.S. between 2010 and 2014 as it emerged from recession. And Cook was the only county in the Midwest to land on that top 20 list.

http://www.chicagobusiness.com/article/20170427/NEWS02/170429894/why-chicagos...

So... with that said.

OWN IT -  Grin
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Reply #18 - 09/24/17 at 07:33:23
 
WebsterMark wrote on 09/24/17 at 06:17:21:
I was in Chicago last week and it's like all major US cities, only bigger, broker and even more impossible to fix. I drove up from Indy and cut through the south side to pick up Lake Shore Drive heading into downtown.That route takes you through Jackson Park or some name like that. It's an area politicians and elites like to refer to "historical" or "diverse" or if they're gonna  feeling 1% honest, they'll say "economically challenged ".   Regular people  call it a $hithole, getto, 3rd world etc...  

Liar - you weren't here.  Nice lie....

In my brief drive through, numerous people just wandered across  the street in traffic expecting cars to stop which is thing on St Louis as well.

Downtown Chicago was great as always; on the outside anyway. If they were a corporation, they'd have to declare bankruptcy and the owners & officers would be brought up on criminal charges. But, it's run by liberal Democrats which means they'll just keep raising taxes until they've bled everyone dry and then you and I will pay for it. That's how it works.


Great lie... you know nothing of my city.  Our economy is actually doing pretty good.

Stop lying about being here.

(see how stupid that looks?)  Of course you don't.
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Reply #19 - 09/24/17 at 17:20:48
 
Wife was watching a Game Show on TV.

She told me, 1st Place Prize, was a Weeks Stay, at a Chicago Hotel.

        2nd Place, was TWO weeks !!!!!!!!
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Reply #20 - 09/24/17 at 18:28:50
 
MnSpring wrote on 09/24/17 at 17:20:48:
Wife was watching a Game Show on TV.

She told me, 1st Place Prize, was a Weeks Stay, at a Chicago Hotel.

        2nd Place, was TWO weeks !!!!!!!!



(The above ‘drive-by’, was brought to you by, ‘Drive By  Inc’, which ’Mod-Bot’, is a subsidiary of, which  “Min-Drive  LLC", is a subsidiary of that)
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Reply #21 - 09/25/17 at 05:32:08
 
 

Liar - you weren't here.  Nice lie....



Great lie... you know nothing of my city.  Our economy is actually doing pretty good.

Stop lying about being here.

(see how stupid that looks?)  Of course you don't.
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Stop being a fool. I travel for work almost every week. last week was Indy and Chicago, this week it's New York. You can search all you want for lies, but you better look within if  you want to find one.

I checked a map and the $hithole I drove through is called Jackson Park. I'm guessing you don't live or hangout there, and for good reason.

And your economic ignorance is showing through, again. Maybe Chicago finished in the top 20 some 4 years ago or some such obscure statistics.
Big woop....  If a man was $100,000 in credit card debt and got a part time job paying $250 a week, but still added $300 a week to his debt, no one (except you I guess) would celebrate his 'progress'.

Again, if Chicago were a person or a corporation, they'd be bankrupt and in jail for fraud. Last week, there were commercials calling for citizens to log complains about the latest theft, the Chicago pop tax. You know, that tax on large sugary sodas like New York did. What a joke. Like anyone believes Chicago government gives a F about health.... it's all about raking in some additional cash to pay for another day.... hell with tomorrow.

Downtown Chicago is great. Fun time as always especially when it's not my money paying twice as much for everything. It's the ultimate nice place to visit, but wouldn't want to live there.
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Reply #22 - 09/25/17 at 05:38:10
 
WebsterMark wrote on 09/25/17 at 05:32:08:
 

Liar - you weren't here.  Nice lie....



Great lie... you know nothing of my city.  Our economy is actually doing pretty good.

Stop lying about being here.

(see how stupid that looks?)  Of course you don't.


Stop being a fool.

You're lying.

I travel for work almost every week. last week was Indy and Chicago, this week it's New York. You can search all you want for lies, but you better look within if  you want to find one.

BWAAAHAAHAAHAAAAA!!!!  I CHALLENGED YOU TO DO THE SAME THING!!!!

SO?..... WHERE'S YOUR PROOF??????


I checked a map and the $hithole I drove through is called Jackson Park. I'm guessing you don't live or hangout there, and for good reason.

And your economic ignorance is showing through, again. Maybe Chicago finished in the top 20 some 4 years ago or some such obscure statistics.
Big woop....  If a man was $100,000 in credit card debt and got a part time job paying $250 a week, but still added $300 a week to his debt, no one (except you I guess) would celebrate his 'progress'.

Again, if Chicago were a person or a corporation, they'd be bankrupt and in jail for fraud. Last week, there were commercials calling for citizens to log complains about the latest theft, the Chicago pop tax. You know, that tax on large sugary sodas like New York did. What a joke. Like anyone believes Chicago government gives a F about health.... it's all about raking in some additional cash to pay for another day.... hell with tomorrow.

Downtown Chicago is great. Fun time as always especially when it's not my money paying twice as much for everything. It's the ultimate nice place to visit, but wouldn't want to live there.
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Man up webby - admit that your claim against me being a liar is without merit.

If you don't, you have ZERO credibility.
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Reply #23 - 09/25/17 at 05:57:15
 
Yeah, I'll never hear from webby.... only people who support tweety aren't liars I guess...  Grin

What can I expect from a guy who lives in the sh!thole of St. Louis?  With a higher per-capita murder rate than Chicago, I'd hate my home too.  You'll never see him admit that though.


But to get back to the original post - it's people who support politicians like the one I posted about that are the true problem.

Hey, if you've got a better plan than the ACA - then support it.  Don't answer a direct question with deflection.  That only proves you have nothing.
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Reply #24 - 09/25/17 at 06:49:55
 
If you had a brain, you would have seen I said most major US cities are all basically the same. Chicago is the same as St Louis only 5 times bigger. Detroit, Atlanta, LA, Baltimore etc.....close your eyes and you wouldn't know the difference between any of them.

I certainly understand that everyone should have a certain amount of pride in their city and so you should take pride in Chicago. Just don't pretend you're the only one who knows what's going on there.

As far as lying, you made up a story and got caught, not me. You've doubled down on it. Fine, whatever. Just stop pretending you didn't and move on.
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Re: Political Deflection 101
Reply #25 - 09/25/17 at 07:03:28
 
TT said


Hey, if you've got a better plan than the ACA - then support it.  Don't answer a direct question with deflection.  That only proves you have nothing.

I Supported  ditching HMOs and going back to what we had befor they did That.
And using the interstate commerce clause so wrongly needs to stop.
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Reply #26 - 09/25/17 at 07:21:26
 
When McCain and Obama ran against each other, healthcare was THE main topic. Once Obama won, he had something of a mandate to make some changes. He could have made small, incremental changes that would have made some improvements, but he choose cram a program everyone knew would fail and be in the spot it's in today. The insurance companies pulling out, the high premiums, the unbelievable amount of money it's cost us; none of that was a surprise.

He should have adopted McCain's plan to begin forcing health insurance away from being the employers responsibility and coupled that together with his guaranteed minimum coverage ideas to come up with the beginnings of a new concept in health insurance.

Instead, because as a liberal his belief is government first and foremost, he pushed through a bill no one read or understood, including himself.

Single payer will devastate America and in fact, much of the world. We've got to let that idea go.

What is preventing insurance companies from competing across state lines? I keep hearing this topic so I assume there's a regulation preventing this or they have to qualify in each state so the cost is prohibitive.

What would happen if health insurance could be purchased like auto insurance? A few changes such as guaranteed coverage, no cancellation provisions etc... but would it work?
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Reply #27 - 09/25/17 at 07:34:59
 
T And T Garage wrote on 09/24/17 at 07:31:05:
pg wrote on 09/23/17 at 14:07:39:
Not only do you own it, you have to endure it.

CHICAGO (Reuters) - Illinois’ pile of unpaid bills topped $16 billion for the first time as the state deals with the fallout of an unprecedented two straight fiscal years without complete budgets, the state comptroller’s office reported on Tuesday.

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BWAAAAHAAHAAAHAAHAAAAA - hey genius, did you actually read past the first word??

ILLINOIS is in budget crisis - NOT Chicago.



http://chicagocitywire.com/stories/511130434-projection-chicago-s-police-pens...

Without a taxpayer bailout, Chicago’s police pension fund won’t have enough money to pay benefits to retirees in 2021, according to a projection by Local Government Information Services (LGIS), which owns this publication.

At the end of 2020, LGIS estimates that the Policemen’s Annuity and Benefit Fund of Chicago will have less than $150 million in assets to pay $928 million promised to 14,133 retirees the following year.


http://chicago.suntimes.com/chicago-politics/cps-lays-off-950-including-356-t...

Almost forgot, how is your destitute lottery doing?  Still giving out IOUs?  


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Reply #28 - 09/25/17 at 08:05:04
 
WebsterMark wrote on 09/25/17 at 06:49:55:
If you had a brain, you would have seen I said most major US cities are all basically the same. Chicago is the same as St Louis only 5 times bigger. Um, nope - your per capita murder rate is WAY higher than Chicago..... (sad trombone sound)

Detroit, Atlanta, LA, Baltimore etc.....close your eyes and you wouldn't know the difference between any of them.

I certainly understand that everyone should have a certain amount of pride in their city and so you should take pride in Chicago. Just don't pretend you're the only one who knows what's going on there.

As far as lying, you made up a story and got caught, not me.

What story did I make up???  Proof little man... proof!

You've doubled down on it. Fine, whatever. Just stop pretending you didn't and move on.


LMAO - nice!!  You have been measured and shown to be less little guy.

Now go slink back to your "lovely" home of St. Louis.....

How's that?
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Reply #29 - 09/25/17 at 08:31:37
 
pg wrote on 09/25/17 at 07:34:59:
T And T Garage wrote on 09/24/17 at 07:31:05:
pg wrote on 09/23/17 at 14:07:39:
Not only do you own it, you have to endure it.

CHICAGO (Reuters) - Illinois’ pile of unpaid bills topped $16 billion for the first time as the state deals with the fallout of an unprecedented two straight fiscal years without complete budgets, the state comptroller’s office reported on Tuesday.

Best regards,



BWAAAAHAAHAAAHAAHAAAAA - hey genius, did you actually read past the first word??

ILLINOIS is in budget crisis - NOT Chicago.



http://chicagocitywire.com/stories/511130434-projection-chicago-s-police-pens...

Without a taxpayer bailout, Chicago’s police pension fund won’t have enough money to pay benefits to retirees in 2021, according to a projection by Local Government Information Services (LGIS), which owns this publication.

At the end of 2020, LGIS estimates that the Policemen’s Annuity and Benefit Fund of Chicago will have less than $150 million in assets to pay $928 million promised to 14,133 retirees the following year.

Yep - thanks to the CPD and its gigantic pension ($138K/year now), the city over promised and under delivered. However, when you increase the pay by over 30% in 10 years... well, that has a tendency to cost a lot more... Duh.  That was thanks to daley and company.  Not that I'm any fan of rham, but at least he's tackling it head on.

http://chicago.suntimes.com/chicago-politics/cps-lays-off-950-including-356-t...

I told you that CPS was run poorly - I owned that... again, you got nothing...

Almost forgot, how is your destitute lottery doing?  Still giving out IOUs?  

Wow... again - that's an ILLINOIS issue, NOT Chicago, genius.

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