FormerlyLostArtist wrote on 01/29/18 at 16:26:06:justin_o_guy2 wrote on 01/29/18 at 14:44:06:FormerlyLostArtist wrote on 01/29/18 at 13:00:48:justin_o_guy2 wrote on 01/29/18 at 12:31:42:IDEALS are great.
Economic reality is what Wise people operate on.
Setting national policy based on what some poet wrote Might not be that bright.
The Door thing is an ANALOGY.
what YOU personally are concerned with isn't part of the Concept.
If you Do find people in your house who you Now must care for because you've been careless about how you control the number of people who live in your house, then your family's standard of living goes down
It's just economic law.
so wise people don't operate based on their ideals? really? so wise people have no integrity then? so next time I hear people spout off about how smart and wise Trump is, I should just remember that he doesn't have any ideals then. got it.
but what YOU personally believe is part of the concept huh? You believe they are bringing crime, drugs and rape and murder here, despite the stats and facts that they aren't doing any of those things anymore than anyone else already here does them. You're afraid of losing "your" country to them? but are okay losing it to "better qualified" immigrants....
idk, I think you have a harder time being consistent with your ideals than I do with mine, and that's a problem, for you
I have MY ideals and of course I live accordingly. I DON'T allow some poet to outline, For ME, what I believe to be Workable ideals.
Your assertion that the illegal immigrants are no more likely to be arrested, convicted and imprisoned are interesting. Please show me what you based that on.
If you want to assemble a team, do you walk down the street and grab the first people you see or do you hunt the most QUALIFIED you can find?
How do you expect America to be the place where you want to be If America is made up of people who don't have the desire and ability to be a productive member of that team?
Did you miss the part where I SAID I believe immigration is necessary?
one source:
http://www.politifact.com/california/statements/2017/aug/03/antonio-villaraig...another:
https://www.texasmonthly.com/politics/everything-you-ever-wanted-to-know-abou...another:
https://www.prisonpolicy.org/scans/sr_022107.pdfanother:
http://thehill.com/latino/324607-reports-find-that-immigrants-commit-less-cri...I could go on, but I could also find a bunch that say the opposite, but they were all from clearly biased sites, Fox, Heritage, Washington Times, etc.... but you might say that the sources I provided are liberal sources, but they do cite some actual peered reviewed studies and articles. and the articles that say illegals commit more crime are much shorter and sometimes refer back to other biased sites, etc.. they feel more agenda driven, to me anyway.
what team are you assembling??? Team 'MERICA! F-YEAH! and it depends on what that "team" is doing? picking apples, oranges, peaches etc..... you want them to have a ph.d for that?
From one of the links..
ay taxes they may never recover. Most work for large employers that withhold Social Security and Medicare taxes. That money helps keep the system solvent.
Q: Does the influx of so many people willing to work for low pay bring down wages and make it tougher for me to find a job?
Well, that depends on who you are. If you’re a member of the upper class or the middle class, undocumented immigrants should have little or no effect on your wages. But if you’re a lower-class high school dropout, then, yes, immigrants (legal and illegal) may bring your wages down a bit—by less than 10 percent, most likely.
As for whether immigrants throw American citizens out of work, the evidence seems to suggest that though they no doubt displace some people from jobs, their presence here also creates jobs, as immigrants buy clothing, eat out at restaurants, and sign cell phone contracts. And if their cheap labor wasn’t available, some employers would probably invest in automation rather than pay people higher wages.
Let's analyze that,,
But first
what team are you assembling??? Team 'MERICA! F-YEAH! and it depends on what that "team" is doing? picking apples, oranges, peaches etc..... you want them to have a ph.d for that.
The team I would assemble is the same kind of team that built America.
No, I never suggested that everyone needs a degree. That's ridiculous and a product of another administration.
It's not reasonable that even the majority be college educated. LOOK at the things that need done. From truck drivers and mechanics to oil and brakes, food service, cashiers, secretary, look at the people who you meet every day who are not college educated AND we all Need those people. Not everyone WANTS a white collar job. I didn't.
So, your snark is not working.
Now, about the above part.
What do you see there that detracts from the pro immigration policy?
I will point it out later.
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