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FormerlyLostArtist Ex Member	MShipley's Abortrion Thread 02/27/18 at 13:49:55 here you go! discuss away!
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T And T Garage Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 9839	Re: MShipley's Abortrion Thread Reply #1 - 02/27/18 at 13:52:19 Agreed!
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Re: MShipley's Abortrion Thread
Reply #2 - 02/27/18 at 14:01:07

here, I'll start you off

MShipley wrote on 02/27/18 at 13:42:05:

[color=#0000ff]No, I think your theory is flawed. A human fetus is no more a child than a bovine one - at certain stages of development.

And there lies the problem: If we adults (perhaps that is an assumption I should not make) do not believe that Life is sacred then why do we expect our children to believe that. If this thread is about stopping the killings then it starts with our worldview on life itself. The problem is not guns. The problem is that life has become cheap, with no purpose or meaning. We are no more important than the bovine.... so why not just kill people too.... after all if there is no consequences or justice for the life we live then what is the difference between Hitler and Mother Theresa? This is the result of the Progressive Worldview...

so, then we should all be vegan then? since all life is sacred, right? are we even allowed to kill plants to eat?

or can we be cannibals?

you're confusing things beyond reason.

a fetus is no more an individual than your foot is. if you cut off your foot it will die, become dead tissue. You have every right to do what you want with your foot, as long as you don't kick me with it.

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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: MShipley's Abortrion Thread Reply #3 - 02/27/18 at 14:13:46 at. If this thread is about stopping the killings then it starts with our worldview on life itself. The problem is not guns. The problem is that life has become cheap, with no purpose or meaning. Only for the Godless.
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Reply #4 - 02/27/18 at 15:02:03

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 02/27/18 at 14:13:46:

at. If this thread is about stopping the killings then it starts with our worldview on life itself. The problem is not guns. The problem is that life has become cheap, with no purpose or meaning.

Only for the Godless.

but you don't get to dictate who should have what worldview, this isn't North Korea

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T And T Garage Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 9839	Re: MShipley's Abortrion Thread Reply #5 - 02/27/18 at 15:39:34 Aaaand no posts from mshipley... Maybe he/she doesn't love us?
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FormerlyLostArtist Ex Member	Re: MShipley's Abortrion Thread Reply #6 - 02/27/18 at 15:45:57 T And T Garage wrote on 02/27/18 at 15:39:34: Aaaand no posts from mshipley... Maybe he/she doesn't love us? maybe he/she doesn't love babies... he/she isn't here defending them.
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JOEL2014 YaBB Newbies Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 48 South Carolina	Re: MShipley's Abortrion Thread Reply #7 - 02/27/18 at 16:25:06 Did it ever occur to anyone that EVERYONE who supports abortion has already been born?
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FormerlyLostArtist Ex Member	Re: MShipley's Abortrion Thread Reply #8 - 02/27/18 at 16:27:09 JOEL2014 wrote on 02/27/18 at 16:25:06: Did it ever occur to anyone that EVERYONE who supports abortion has already been born? well I haven't heard any fetuses say anything so. yeah, guess so, obvious much?
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MShipley Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 681	Re: MShipley's Abortrion Thread Reply #9 - 02/27/18 at 16:54:19 Perhaps you live on this website. I DO NOT. and if you see no difference between a fetus and a foot then you well.... you prove my point.
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MShipley Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 681	Re: MShipley's Abortrion Thread Reply #10 - 02/27/18 at 16:57:42 PS, the way you mock the innocent murdered children is really perverse.
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Reply #11 - 02/27/18 at 17:09:53

If abortion is acceptable then why not let the baby be born and then kill it? That would be less risky for the mother.Abortion is murder no matter how you slice it. If it is a case of letting the child be born would risk the mother's life, then that is her choice if she has an abortion. To me, my life means nothing compared to a child so I would gladly give mine for the sake of an innocent baby's. But that's me and I know not everyone shares that view. The Lord has said in His word "Before I formed thee in the womb I knew thee".Babies mean a lot to God, why shouldn't we have the same feelings about them?

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Reply #12 - 02/27/18 at 17:20:14

Just a note about Jehovah’s Witnesses
(Oh Yea and abortion)

3 miles away is one of their churches.
They make regular, visits.
(I have been here for 39 years)

About 10 years ago, they came out.
Gave me their, ’spiel’.
In return I said:
“To bad, you are FOR, Abortion”
(Cheese & Rice what a Clamor from the 4 of them)
After that calmed down, I said:
“ well you, ‘voted’ for it, …… “
As soon as I said that, the Clamor started again,
and all about how, their, ‘allegiance’, is to God, not mans government.
I Told them: "Well, by Not Voting, you Voted FOR it".

They stomped out, and I never saw them again.
LOLOLOL

As to ‘abortion’. Someone want’s to KILL.
That is on Them, and they have to live,
with KILLING their unborn.

BUT, I, do NOT, have to PAY for it.

WHICH P.P. Gets MY, (and yours) TAX DOLLARS

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Reply #13 - 02/27/18 at 18:22:45

FormerlyLostArtist wrote on 02/27/18 at 13:32:26:

MShipley wrote on Today at 13:04:41:
So... a fetus that can't sustain itself outside the womb is now a child?

A fetus is not intended to live outside a womb until it's time, But it certainly will not be able to sustain itself or become a child when you reach inside it's natural environment and use assault weapons to rip it's arms and legs off, or drill a hole in their heads and suck their brains out.

Your moral outrage against the NRA and school shootings is without integrity if you accept the wholesale slaughter of over 2,000 children per day.

I do not believe you or your new intern have any moral high ground to stand on in the debate on what to do to prevent children from dying.

Still Love you, but like I have said the so called Progressive Ideology destroys everything.

no, you don't love him, quit lying. you think him and people who think like him are destroying everything. that's like that BS saying "love the sinner, hate the sin" the sin wouldn't exist without the sinner so you are really only hating

[color=#0000ff]This statement is an expression of your world view not mine. I be laid all humans deserve love and respect no matter what they think.

bottom line, you can't force a woman to sustain another life with her OWN body. I can't force you, or any other human, to act as a living incubator for anyone else, even if it's the only way of keeping them alive. YOU have the right to say NO. same thing goes for women and their bodies, they have the right to say no.

You are right, I can not force her. It is not an issue of law, but an issue of the heart. But it is a huge statement on what our culture says about the value of life.

You are right, I can not force her. It is not an issue of law, but an issue of the heart. But it is a huge statement on what our culture says about the value of life.

on this I mostly agree, but your aren't going to be changing any minds by stripping people of their rights and telling them how awful and evil they are and how much they are going to destroy everything sacred, that's just a big of an overreach, you know it too, quit it

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Reply #14 - 02/27/18 at 18:35:08

MShipley wrote on 02/27/18 at 16:54:19:

Perhaps you live on this website. I DO NOT. and if you see no difference between a fetus and a foot then you well.... you prove my point.

oh, I'm sure you live in a deep red super conservative place where everyone agrees with you and your life is easy, you're probably rich too.

and as far as life is concerned, yeah, the fetus and the foot have a lot in common, both are completely human, and neither can survive without a body. and neither talk.

and you not understanding that, proves my point about your lack of understanding of science.

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