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Reply #15 - 02/27/18 at 18:46:47
 
JOEL2014 wrote on 02/27/18 at 17:09:53:
If abortion is acceptable then why not let the baby be born and then kill it? That would be less risky for the mother.Abortion is murder no matter how you slice it. If it is a case of letting the child be born would risk the mother's life, then that is her choice if she has an abortion. To me, my life means nothing compared to a child so I would gladly give mine for the sake of an innocent baby's. But that's me and I know not everyone shares that view. The Lord has said in His word "Before I formed thee in the womb I knew thee".Babies mean a lot to God, why shouldn't we have the same feelings about them?



you can't murder something that's NOT ALIVE.

you're allowed to be sentimental all you want, our laws aren't based on your emotions though.

and in the bible, there a's this:
Numbers 5:11-31. I encourage you to read it for yourself, in context, but here’s a quick summary:

Let’s say you suspect your wife of cheating on you. Even worse, she’s pregnant and you’re not even sure it’s your child. You don’t have any proof she cheated, but you are very jealous and you want to know the truth.

Well, there’s a simple solution. Just take your wife and a few pounds of barley flour to your local priest. Tell him about your problem, and he will perform a creepy ritual that involves incantations, writing in a scroll, and burning grain on an altar. At the end he will have your wife drink cursed water. If she’s innocent, nothing will happen. But if she’s guilty, she will have a miscarriage.

that's from:
http://southernskeptic.com/bible-supports-abortion/


and it defines life as living BREATH, not at conception.

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Reply #16 - 02/27/18 at 18:49:08
 
JOEL2014 wrote on 02/27/18 at 16:25:06:
Did it ever occur to anyone that EVERYONE who supports abortion has already been born? Huh


No... I'm against abortion, but in favor of a woman's choice.  That's what many conservatives don't see - it's not about the abortion, it's about the choice a woman has over her own body.
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Reply #17 - 02/27/18 at 18:54:04
 
To the moderators..... I very much resent the fact that someone would be allowed to childishly start a thread in my name.

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Reply #18 - 02/27/18 at 18:56:12
 
JOEL2014 wrote on 02/27/18 at 17:09:53:
If abortion is acceptable then why not let the baby be born and then kill it? That would be less risky for the mother.Abortion is murder no matter how you slice it. No, it's not.

If it is a case of letting the child be born would risk the mother's life, then that is her choice if she has an abortion. To me, my life means nothing compared to a child so I would gladly give mine for the sake of an innocent baby's. Really?  Even if that baby turns out to be a murderer - or worse - a liberal?!?!  But really, you have that little respect for a woman's choice?

But that's me and I know not everyone shares that view. The Lord has said in His word "Before I formed thee in the womb I knew thee".Babies mean a lot to God, why shouldn't we have the same feelings about them?


Sorry, not buying into this argument.  It's simply not the same thing.
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Reply #19 - 02/27/18 at 18:58:25
 
FormerlyLostArtist wrote on 02/27/18 at 18:35:08:
MShipley wrote on 02/27/18 at 16:54:19:
Perhaps you live on this website. I DO NOT. and if you see no difference between a fetus and a foot then you well.... you prove my point.



oh, I'm sure you live in a deep red super conservative place where everyone agrees with you and your life is easy, you're probably rich too.


and as far as life is concerned, yeah, the fetus and the foot have a lot in common, both are completely human, and neither can survive without a body.  and neither talk.

and you not understanding that, proves my point about your lack of understanding of science.



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Reply #20 - 02/27/18 at 18:59:21
 
MShipley wrote on 02/27/18 at 18:54:04:
To the moderators..... I very much resent the fact that someone would be allowed to childishly start a thread in my name.



Really?  Yet it's OK for you to hijack one?  OK, cool....
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Reply #21 - 02/27/18 at 19:04:54
 
FormerlyLostArtist wrote on 02/27/18 at 15:02:03:
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 02/27/18 at 14:13:46:
at. If this thread is about stopping the killings then it starts with our worldview on life itself. The problem is not guns. The problem is that life has become cheap, with no purpose or meaning.

Only for the Godless.


but you don't get to dictate who should have what worldview, this isn't North Korea



Correct, can't dictate conscience.
I'm not the guy who supported telling a baker how to honor his own conscience.
He was told His conscience didn't matter.
The left are the tyrants, not the people like me.
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Reply #22 - 02/28/18 at 15:40:46
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 02/27/18 at 19:04:54:
FormerlyLostArtist wrote on 02/27/18 at 15:02:03:
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 02/27/18 at 14:13:46:
at. If this thread is about stopping the killings then it starts with our worldview on life itself. The problem is not guns. The problem is that life has become cheap, with no purpose or meaning.

Only for the Godless.


but you don't get to dictate who should have what worldview, this isn't North Korea



Correct, can't dictate conscience.
I'm not the guy who supported telling a baker how to honor his own conscience.
He was told His conscience didn't matter.
The left are the tyrants, not the people like me.



there are plenty of right wing tyrants. I bet you support them all.

no, and I mean, you can't dictate worldview, the internet is alive and well and people can educate themselves and every range of philosophy out there, and you can't stop that.

more about the baker in a NEW THREAD
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Reply #23 - 02/28/18 at 16:43:31
 
FormerlyLostArtist wrote on 02/28/18 at 15:40:46:
more about the baker in a NEW THREAD


Really?  Yet it's OK for you to
  make a new one, in someone else's name ?  
    OK, cool....





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Reply #24 - 02/28/18 at 16:46:13
 
I didn't bring the tyranny of north Korea in.
I'm not supposed to respond.
THAT'S
Hijacking.
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Reply #25 - 03/01/18 at 08:13:43
 
MShipley wrote on 02/27/18 at 18:54:04:
To the moderators..... I very much resent the fact that someone would be allowed to childishly start a thread in my name.




what? you don't want to talk abortion anymore?  you were bringing it up so much I figured you needed a thread for it

try to do a guy a favor....  

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Reply #26 - 03/01/18 at 08:18:32
 
MnSpring wrote on 02/28/18 at 16:43:31:
FormerlyLostArtist wrote on 02/28/18 at 15:40:46:
more about the baker in a NEW THREAD


Really?  Yet it's OK for you to
  make a new one, in someone else's name ?  
    OK, cool....








if you notice, I created a new thread for the baker discussion too, instead of going on and on about it here in a thread about abortion, see, the difference is, I took PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY, I saw myself going off the topic and made a new thread for that tangent, instead of trying to link everything under the sun to the same thing to prove how wrong/evil the other side is



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Reply #27 - 03/01/18 at 08:21:53
 
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