Is America ready to overturn the Gun Free Zone at our schools?

Yes?
No?
Why not?

Those signs haven't Always been there.
And difficult as it may be to change a belief, when that belief has been Demonstrated a failure over and over, then realistic minds change.

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 03/03/18 at 10:33:27:

If that were true, we would get rid of guns like Australia did...
No mass shootings there...
Japan
No mass shootings there...
England
No mass shootings there...

America is one 20th of the world, and we have more than half of all mass shootings.
It's proven time and time again...

Your belief that guns will fix the gun problem is unrealistic.

Serowbot wrote on 03/03/18 at 12:52:25:

 "... Your belief that guns will fix the gun problem is unrealistic.

Your Belief, that the Removal of Firearms, in the USA,
  Will STOP,   Violence and Murder, is, ‘… unrealistic….”

The USA is  NOT, the UK or Australia,
there has  Never been, (and Never will be)
the likes of the 1, 2, 4th Amendment.

Would suggest, if some people think the USA,
              is such a, ‘$HIT HOLE’,
It would be better to MOVE  to a  Country.
         Where you have no Freedom.

MnSpring's response" Move if you don't like it" is the stereotypical response of the mindless NRA robots...semi automatic weapons in the hands of a small number of gun nuts will not arm an uprising against the US military and its government.  Nor will it protect you from the government should they decide to run over you.  
What is does do is allow quick and easy access to weapons that kill for almost any whacko (whose mum thinks learning to shoot will help jr with his issues..or Daddy has little dickie stand next to him while he opens the gun safe ((Jr wouldn't steal the combo!!).  The little whacko's are usually bright enough and cunning (been trying to pass as normal) compared to parents who really are on a different planet (occupied by grownups who are trying to amass wealth, power etc).
Do you think little shooter won't, If he thinks killing fellow students is the way to fame, glory or death, figure out he can shoot up a school bus, track and field event, etc etc.   Will YOU pay for an armored personnel carrier to transport children to school??
So lets get realistic for a moment.
(1)  If we can id whackos can we get the government to put them somewhere where they wont hurt others??The past 30 years has been a Republican Party led discontinuance of institutions (they cost too much) abetted by the Democrats (how inhuman to wharehouse the poor misunderstood whackeretts)  
(2) perhaps then we should reduce the easy access to weapons of speedy killing.  If whacko comes in with a knife, chances are the 4-6 minute police response time might end the bloodshed with only a few stabbed, not 14 or 55 or 200.

Trippah wrote on 03/04/18 at 07:30:29:


I think it takes an obvious, and runs with it under a new context.....
Just like the Civil War Confederate Statutes, etc....

The nation was crafted by "white" men, for that was the norm, historically at the time.

You try and pull things out of context, just like with numbers, you can make then deliver any result you want/desire.

Its lazy journalistic pandering without any ability to be proven.

I think its high time we strive for facts, goodness, Ray Bradbury seems more a non fiction author than what we see today passing as historians  

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 03/04/18 at 08:53:09:


Let's look at it reasonably.
An armed teacher against an armed mass murderer.
50/50 odds at the very most optimistic.
a- the murderer likely has an assault rifle and 100's of rounds
b- he's likely suicidal
c- he may be wearing armour
d- the teacher will be caught off guard, the shooter is fully prepared and focused
e- most teachers will have minimal training and little enthusiasm for guns
f- even police and military don't like going in "mano a mano" with killers
g- there will be accidents... and and deaths... to go along with that, there will be outrage, lawsuits, headlines, and protests.

I have a decent amount of gun experience, at least more than the average school teacher, and I wouldn't feel super confident going up against a suicidal nutjob with an Ar15.  (Especially with a pistol I've had locked away in a drawer for 6 months)
Would you?...
Armchair heroes, like Trump, are not in the real world. Facing a barrage of bullets is...

Do you think a sign saying "gun Free Zone" has any impact on the whacko's mind?  Almost all of the school shootings, the shooter has had a connection - mom taught there, the girl who dumped me was there etc.
When the shooter is older and wiser..it seems to get less directly connected, e.g.
The lack of a "Gun Free Zone" sign undoubtedly had great impact on the Las Vegas shooter - not the fact there would be police all around the area AND possibly the attraction of a large crowd (as this was apparently not a personal grudge but simply insanity thing).
None of the more guns arguments have any merit as far as I can see.