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raydawg Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 11551 pacific northwest Gender:	Teach me to fish......... 03/08/18 at 07:59:50 Flatter me, and I may not believe you. Criticize me, and I may not like you. Ignore me, and I may not forgive you. Encourage me, and I will not forget you. - William A. Ward
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Matchless G11 Senior Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 451 Newfoundland NJ	Re: Teach me to fish......... Reply #1 - 03/08/18 at 08:11:19 "Civilization has run on ahead of the soul of man, and is producing faster than he can think and give thanks." G.K. Chesterton
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Reply #2 - 03/08/18 at 08:31:00

Thanks, I like it, but how do you think it can be justified?

Make America great again? Embarrassed

I think I understand what you mean by soul of man, and I think simply the golden rule should govern all mankind, but it never has, has it?

Our we at fault thinking we need to bring its idea into fruition?

Or, are we failing because we think we can?

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Matchless G11 Senior Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 451 Newfoundland NJ	Re: Teach me to fish......... Reply #3 - 03/08/18 at 08:50:15 The same guy has said this. “The Christian ideal has not been tried and found wanting; it has been found difficult and left untried.” G K Chesterton. So don't put your faith in minor kings and rulers, whether they are Obama or Trump.. They pass .. But the words of the true King go on forever..
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Reply #4 - 03/08/18 at 09:02:31

Matchless G11 wrote on 03/08/18 at 08:50:15:

The same guy has said this.

“The Christian ideal has not been tried and found wanting; it has been found difficult and left untried.”

G K Chesterton.

So don't put your faith in minor kings and rulers, whether they are Obama or Trump.. They pass ..
But the words of the true King go on forever..

Ok, thanks.......

I want to ask you a question, it has puzzled me for many years, and I am a believer, that Jesus Christ is, as who he says he is......

When I read the bible, and I try and wrap an understanding around its message, I'm handicapped, in a sense, that my mind is so sinful of the flesh.
Indeed, the deeper my study, the more I surrender, the greater my understanding, the realizing of it's TRUTH Cheesy

And now, I am to put that understanding into actions, as a witness, yes?

My question, "Why isn't it a fact that we shouldn't be able to build enough churches, fast enough, for all who want what we exhibit, if our witness is true?"

Do you understand my question?

In a sense I think it bears testimony that we believers, are putting to much faith into the moment, as well...... Embarrassed

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Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 29689 Tucson Az Gender:	Re: Teach me to fish......... Reply #5 - 03/08/18 at 09:04:10 "Beauty is in the eye of the beer holder. "
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MShipley Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 681	Re: Teach me to fish......... Reply #6 - 03/08/18 at 09:48:42 “The depravity of man is at once the most empirically verifiable reality but at the same time the most intellectually resisted fact.” Malcom Muggeridge
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raydawg Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 11551 pacific northwest Gender:	Re: Teach me to fish......... Reply #7 - 03/08/18 at 10:15:56 Serowbot wrote on 03/08/18 at 09:04:10: "Beauty is in the eye of the beer holder. " Stay drunk all the time........
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raydawg Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 11551 pacific northwest Gender:	Re: Teach me to fish......... Reply #8 - 03/08/18 at 10:17:00 MShipley wrote on 03/08/18 at 09:48:42: “The depravity of man is at once the most empirically verifiable reality but at the same time the most intellectually resisted fact.” Malcom Muggeridge Yes, indeed, now how do we go about changing it?
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Reply #10 - 03/08/18 at 10:34:40

raydawg wrote on 03/08/18 at 10:17:00:

MShipley wrote on 03/08/18 at 09:48:42:

“The depravity of man is at once the most empirically verifiable reality but at the same time the most intellectually resisted fact.” Malcom Muggeridge

Yes, indeed, now how do we go about changing it?

If we could fix this there would be no need for a Savior. God sent Christ to the world because we are incapable of rising above hate, intolerance, greed...... he did however provide a way to live within it. 1. All life is sacred BECAUSE it is created by God. 2. We are to Love all humans no matter who they are or what they believe because God first loved us despite our depravity and hate for him. 3. We always forgive because he first forgave us.

That is our example to strive for everyday despite the fact that everyday we fail.

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Reply #11 - 03/08/18 at 10:43:15

Serowbot wrote on 03/08/18 at 09:04:10:

"Beauty is in the eye of the beer holder. "

We can't build stronger churches in this day and age because of the world being so dark and sinful. The ground is not fertile and there are too many tares for the wheat to thrive. The word of God tells us that people are going to be evil in these end times, and that is exactly what we are seeing.

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Reply #12 - 03/08/18 at 11:03:01

MShipley wrote on 03/08/18 at 10:34:40:

raydawg wrote on 03/08/18 at 10:17:00:

MShipley wrote on 03/08/18 at 09:48:42:

“The depravity of man is at once the most empirically verifiable reality but at the same time the most intellectually resisted fact.” Malcom Muggeridge

Yes, indeed, now how do we go about changing it?

If we could fix this there would be no need for a Savior. God sent Christ to the world because we are incapable of rising above hate, intolerance, greed...... he did however provide a way to live within it. 1. All life is sacred BECAUSE it is created by God. 2. We are to Love all humans no matter who they are or what they believe because God first loved us despite our depravity and hate for him. 3. We always forgive because he first forgave us.

That is our example to strive for everyday despite the fact that everyday we fail.

Thank you......

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Reply #13 - 03/08/18 at 11:03:46

JOEL2014 wrote on 03/08/18 at 10:43:15:

Serowbot wrote on 03/08/18 at 09:04:10:

"Beauty is in the eye of the beer holder. "

We can't build stronger churches in this day and age because of the world being so dark and sinful. The ground is not fertile and there are too many tares for the wheat to thrive. The word of God tells us that people are going to be evil in these end times, and that is exactly what we are seeing.

Ah, hope springs eternal Embarrassed

Thank you.

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Matchless G11 Senior Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 451 Newfoundland NJ	Re: Teach me to fish......... Reply #14 - 03/08/18 at 11:59:11 One can be the body of Christ. There are ways of volunteering at homeless shelters. Visiting those in prison, the sick and elderly. Helping staff a crisis pregnancy center. Mentoring, Pray Just do simple kindness everyday. "Preach Christ everyday, some time use words. " Attributed to St Frances.
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