raydawg wrote on 03/09/18 at 15:42:44:


Yeah ray, that's the response I expected.

I never said the economy was terrible, I said wages suck.  

But you go ahead and jump on that thought.  God forbid you accept that wages have been stagnant.

Jog, Obama tried peace, he really did, he offered friendship, even apologizing for our past errors, and aggression....

It did just the opposite, and empowered those who are evil, to be more overt, and evil.  

Power, it seems, is the only thing that can constrain other power.....

Evil has been in charge for many, many years.....

One battle is left, just one.

I have nothing buddy, only what I recall......
I remember Obama coming in with some pretty strong gestures toward the countries in the M.E. with alternatives to the last few decades.

I Believe it thought it would work, then when it wasn't. and now reelection considerations, etc, after having got his butt kicked in midterms, he bent to the "wisdom" of those who think its always about a show of force.....

And Libya was almost as easy as bombing a aspirin factory...... wag the dog.

Where did I say it was right?

C’mon, did you give him the benefit of the doubt when he was awarded the nobell peace prize before he accomplished anything?

Yes, he was the beneficiary of a disingenuous media, etc, but let’s look past that stuff to see what his real desire was...
And it wasn’t to turn America into a Muslim country, etc.

You can’t have it both ways Jog.

All by himself......

Sorry bub, I'm done here  

I am not arguing we didn’t....,
What is it you want Jog?

Motivation?

I think the US has a long history of motivation, and it didn’t just spring up in his term.
I told you he tried an olive branch, first, when he became President, it met with less than hoed for results,....
What happened after that, I would guess he was no match to take on the swamp creatures....uh, like Tweeter  

Libya was slated for invasion shortly after 9/11.
The Lockerbie bombing has been called into question. Other people could have been involved.
Was Lockerbie used as a reason in the news?
What was?
What excuses were used for destroying Libya?
And HOW is it Possible to destroy a country and CALL it a Humanitarian Mission?
It doesn't add up. There had to be something behind it that we don't know.
And how did Libya get on a list of countries that we would be militarily involved in in 2001, and the REASONS For that military action only be things done after 2010?
I don't know. But not knowing isn't a reason to believe what I was told.
It's not adding up.
Couple ALL THAT with Gadhaffi going to the U.N.Security Council and Telling them that If they take him out, refugees will pour into Europe, and you are forced to ask yourself if Someone Wanted the refugees.
I don't believe those
Uprisings in the middle east were spontaneous and without outside support.
How many oppressed people are able to arm themselves with RPGs?
Such poverty, and trucks with fifty caliber machine guns just don't add up.
I believe we were very involved in creating the problems.

Theories?
How many times do you need to see that list?
What are you seeing me type that is not a known Fact?
It's not a Theory that we destroyed Libya.
It's a FACT.
And the only unknown is
Why.
So you can tell me.
Why?
Ray said Obama Tried to work with Gadhaffi.
I don't know how.
What?
Gadhaffi threatened us?
Why did we blow that place up?