Shut up TT. You're a crappity smack!ng idiot. Seriously, a crappity smack!ng idiot. This was a somewhat serious thread for a change and like a toddler no one's paying attention to, you had to yell.

Serowbot wrote on 03/16/18 at 07:33:51:


Well Thanks, you just screwed up this thread......

I specifically asked to not address the right to bear arms, that is a argument of its own distinction, as is the freedom of religion as opposed to freedom from religion, as well as many other interpretations on other issues.

I was hoping we could find dialogue in a healthy exchange, maybe even find common ground, like the folks in Florida have, and agreed to build from what they can agree upon, and address the things they disagree about, later......

WHICH, might very well resolve themselves, when folks opt for civility and consensus, instead of mob mentality of resistance.

Again, thank you.

raydawg wrote on 03/15/18 at 12:31:18:

Why do folks want/need at AK47 assault rifle?
Please, I am not looking for the right to bear arms argument, but what is this weapons draw?

Very Simple.   Ya can’t have one, so I want one.
That attitude occurs with just about everything.

 Heck look at a current T.V.  Commercial,
‘A Store, people crowd in, grabbing every Avacotto  they can,
While the news says: “ Avacotto Shortage”.
Then the TV says, ‘ Avacotto’s are going to be alright,
it is Prunes that will be in shortage.
Everone droops the, Avacotto’s,  and runs to grab the Prunes.

SKS’s,  kinnaLike a AK-47,  (different group of countries)
Sold for  99.99, Top of the Line Colt, AR-15 Style, HBAR’s, sold for 500.00.  AK-47’s were a few here and their, and depending on their condition, and country of origin, they were selling for 100 to 250.00.

Just  AFTER,  Clinton,  BANNED, the (mythical), ‘assault rifle’,
SKS’s up to 300.
HBAR’s, 900-1,100.00
AK-47, 350-500.00

The Price of a, ‘Black Gun’, or so called, ‘assault rifle’,
Has, HISTORICALLY, gone UP or Down, depending on
the, ‘BANNING’ of it.

Not going to get further in discussion of a political nature.
             (OP  did not ask for that)
Yet I see, the NUMBER ONE,
    Complainer on, 'not following a thread’,
has  Totally gone into a, Political Discussion.

           As a, Singer often said:
              “Gooolllllie  Geeee”

To answer the original question... I do have an AR 15 type gun. Why did I buy it?

Nothing to do with militia, or because "I could have one".

1.  The AR 15 is a modular design. The main two assemblies are the "upper" including the barrel and the action, and the "lower" including the trigger group. I can buy "uppers", using the same "lower", and that lets me have multiple calibers without buying more guns. I can easily replace parts or fit aftermarket ones without the cost or time involved going to a gunsmith. Magazines are cheap.

2. The main caliber, and the one for my AR 15, is the .223 Remington round.  It is not a powerful round and has little recoil.  I can shoot it all day without ending up with a bruised shoulder.  It is also cheap and accurate.

3. The gun is relatively cheap. I bought one towards the high end of this model, and it cost me just over $1000. To compare, I recently bought a Sharps single shot rifle which cost me well over $3000.

4.  As a firearms instructor, I needed to be familiar with one as this is the most common rifle in the USA.

To me, an assault rifle is one that is fully automatic. I was in the military and have been trained to handle a fully automatic weapon. That being said even I don't need one. The term "assault rifle" has been used incorrectly to demonize nearly every semiautomatic rifle in existence at one time or another by someone or another. We need to enforce the laws we have now and make the punishments for gun crimes Swift and extremely harsh.

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Web, leaving for work, sorry, don't have time to delve in to your claim very deeply.

All I ask is for you to "separate" the gun right argument from trying to enlighten us, who do not own guns, or see their attraction.

I think the drug/booze angle hopefully helps in defining to draw a line of distinction between what is "legal" and how a legal product can have consequences, "unintended" by lawful users of the said product.

If we can try and understand that "draw", then we might be able to join all POV's, sans the rhetoric of opportunistic charlatans, who pretend they care about the problem, but really only try to use it to promote themselves....

Make sense?

Thanks.  

Trippah wrote on 03/16/18 at 11:15:23:


Once again - well put Trippah!  I wonder if anyone will notice that you give no comfort to either side of the aisle in this case.

Good on you!

 I am pretty sure we can have a discussion about why people "want" a specific type of firearm without talking about the 2nd Amendment.

 If the 2nd Amendment is the only reason you want an AR-15 then don't contribute to the conversation, as it is off-topic.  

 These discussions get pretty easy when we stay on-topic and stop with the name calling.