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04/14/18 at 05:42:57
 
“What’s interesting is that on the conservative side of the spectrum we’ve figured out how to box in the radicals and say, ‘no, you’re outside the domain of acceptable opinion,’” the University of Toronto professor said. “Now, here’s the issue. We know that things can go too far on the right, and we know that things can go too far on the left. But we don’t know what the markers are for going too far on the left. I would say that it’s ethically incumbent on those who are liberal or left-leaning to identity the markers of pathological extremism on the left and to distinguish themselves from the people who hold those pathological viewpoints — and I don’t see that that’s being done.”
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Reply #1 - 04/14/18 at 06:55:47
 
What does he call "to far on the Right"?....
Do you think the Left would agree?... Huh
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Reply #2 - 04/14/18 at 07:59:41
 
As a proud member of the Leftist, what or whom, do you call too far to the Right that's not condemned by the vast  majority on the Right because that is the central question.
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Reply #3 - 04/14/18 at 08:56:20
 
Any Pub that thinks taking away from the poor to benefit the rich is progress...
They're the Robin Hoods of Bizarro World...
Maybe just "hoods"...

Any Pub that thinks entire groups of people are "terrorists, rapists, thugs, etc"...

Any Pub that thinks Healthcare is a privilege...
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Reply #4 - 04/14/18 at 09:36:38
 
Any Pub that thinks taking away from the poor to benefit the rich is progress...

That's hardly an exclusive domain of the right so try agaon that

I don't know a "Pub" who thinks an entire group are terrorist etc....

Everyone knows health care is a privilege, its just a matter of how best to allocate scarce resources.

So you've got nothing?
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Reply #5 - 04/14/18 at 09:58:49
 
Sure...
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Reply #6 - 04/14/18 at 10:21:20
 
WebsterMark wrote on 04/14/18 at 05:42:57:
...on the conservative side of the spectrum we’ve figured out how to box in the radicals and say, ‘no, you’re outside the domain of acceptable opinion,’


After your response to my reply,... this is suddenly very funny...
What exactly is your "outside the domain"?...
Trump has already lent support to Neonazis, and women abusers...  and got hookers to pee for him,... so where is that line?...
Chicken fukkers?... Undecided
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Reply #7 - 04/14/18 at 10:44:14
 
that statement is BS.

politics are politics,  did Trump or anyone on the right ever say, "hey racists, bigots, etc.. don't vote for me, I don't want it."  If they did say that I can almost guarantee they then followed up with some kind of signal that those with those extreme "right" views that they were still accepted by those politicians, just taking Trump as an example, during the campaign he says he doesn't know who the KKK are, then after a week of that being his default, that he doesn't want to condemn a group that he doesn't know, he eventually, begrudgingly "condemns" them, then to say "there are good people on both sides" during Charlottesville,  or while he was campaigning he said he'd be a good friend to the LGBQT groups despite putting Pence in as VP (signalling to the bigots on the right that he's not totally opposed to their POV)  and then when he's in office, he's moved to eliminate trans folk from the military

sure, the right isolates the extremes... until they need the votes.


Same with the left,  they'll openly criticize and move away from the extremes like the communists but they always leave room for the extremes to feel they are the best vote for them.

sorry, I don't have any examples of that off the top of my head, but I'm sure some of the conservatives here will pipe in and list all the evils that identify with the left and how liberal politicians have done their own dog whistles allowing them to vote for them.

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Reply #8 - 04/14/18 at 11:29:55
 
FormerlyLostArtist wrote on 04/14/18 at 10:44:14:
"...  did Trump or anyone on the right ever say, "hey racists, bigots, etc.. don't vote for me, I don't want it." ..." 

What is the Difference?

did H.R.C or anyone on the Left ever say,
"hey  Ultra- Liberals, Progressive, Fairy Dust Sprinkling Snowflakes, etc..,
don't vote for me, I don't want it."


"... I'm sure some of the conservatives here will pipe in and list all the evils that identify with the left and how liberal politicians have done their own dog whistles allowing them to vote for them. ..."

So Happy, to make your day Lost !






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Reply #9 - 04/14/18 at 16:18:12
 
Serowbot wrote on 04/14/18 at 10:21:20:
WebsterMark wrote on 04/14/18 at 05:42:57:
...on the conservative side of the spectrum we’ve figured out how to box in the radicals and say, ‘no, you’re outside the domain of acceptable opinion,’


After your response to my reply,... this is suddenly very funny...
What exactly is your "outside the domain"?...
Trump has already lent support to Neonazis, and women abusers...  and got hookers to pee for him,... so where is that line?...
Chicken fukkers?... Undecided


Well, none of that is true so there's that.
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Reply #10 - 04/16/18 at 11:51:57
 
WebsterMark wrote on 04/14/18 at 16:18:12:
Serowbot wrote on 04/14/18 at 10:21:20:
WebsterMark wrote on 04/14/18 at 05:42:57:
...on the conservative side of the spectrum we’ve figured out how to box in the radicals and say, ‘no, you’re outside the domain of acceptable opinion,’


After your response to my reply,... this is suddenly very funny...
What exactly is your "outside the domain"?...
Trump has already lent support to Neonazis, and women abusers...  and got hookers to pee for him,... so where is that line?...
Chicken fukkers?... Undecided


Well, none of that is true so there's that.



" there are good people on both sides...  "  yeah, that doesn't give those neo-nazis any room in interpret that as the President supporting them.   Especially since Trump had to be cajoled majorly to get him to actually condemn the bigots and white supremacists, just like during his campaign.  

and he has had to be convinced several times that women abusers shouldn't be working in the White House, "he says he's innocent, that's important to remember" .  oh wait, there are photos... uh oh...  

I'll give you one thing, the jury is still out on the hookers peeing...

Trump has been as lenient and accepting of white supremacists and women abusers as Obama was on Black Lives Matters and "non-violent drug criminals"

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Re: Left vs Right
Reply #11 - 04/16/18 at 18:59:54
 
give you one thing, the jury is still out on the hookers peeing...


No, it isn't.
IF that happened
Housekeeping would have found the soaked mattress,
Alerted management
Management would have
Billed the person who rented the room.

That's easily investigated.
And it hasn't been reported.
So
It
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Reply #12 - 04/18/18 at 12:49:36
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 04/16/18 at 18:59:54:
give you one thing, the jury is still out on the hookers peeing...


No, it isn't.
IF that happened
Housekeeping would have found the soaked mattress,
Alerted management
Management would have
Billed the person who rented the room.

That's easily investigated.
And it hasn't been reported.
So
It
Didn't
Happen.


maybe, but maybe, it's not so easily investigated, it happened in RUSSIA, they could have ceased all those documents and covered it up, to keep it Russian Intel, it's a lot more potent if it's a bombshell from them than it is if everyone knows about it already

and to be clear, I'm not saying it happened, but I'm not saying it didn't, I really don't care

I don't know man. and you don't know either, they might have the evidence of it but it's not exactly a crime so in he big scheme of things it's not really an issue so they might have evidence but not feel like it's worth dragging an American President through the muck like that, and by they I mean Mueller and his FBI team, not the media. Maybe they are holding that evidence to put in the grand report when it's all done, Mueller's team doesn't exactly leak a lot of info so neither you nor I really have any good intel on what they have.
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Re: Left vs Right
Reply #13 - 04/18/18 at 13:10:12
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 04/16/18 at 18:59:54:
That's easily investigated.
And it hasn't been reported.
So
It
Didn't
Happen.


in Russia?...

A Russian billionaire oligarch sends hookers to your room, as part of plan to garner influence in a scheme to launder 100's of millions of dirty money... and then he bills you for sheet cleaning?...
Really?...
Really?.......  
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Re: Left vs Right
Reply #14 - 04/18/18 at 20:55:12
 
But the people who understand why there is a second amendment are paranoid.

Talk about Bullshit..
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