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T And T Garage Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 9839	"Entitlements" 04/23/18 at 16:16:53 I think we need to see more of this. http://www.c-span.org/video/?c4723668/rep-john-larson-fica
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Reply #1 - 04/24/18 at 07:50:21

T And T Garage wrote on 04/23/18 at 16:16:53:

I think we need to see more of this.
http://www.c-span.org/video/?c4723668/rep-john-larson-fica

"FactCheck.org, Oct. 25, 2006: That line was bunk when Republicans used it against Democratic candidates in the past, and it’s bunk now. One leading Social Security expert called it “nonsense” as far back as 1999, and that still holds...."

Q1. Which political party took Social Security from the independent trust fund and put it into the general fund so that Congress could spend it?

A1: There has never been any change in the way the Social Security program is financed or the way that Social Security payroll taxes are used by the federal government. The Social Security Trust Fund was created in 1939 as part of the Amendments enacted in that year. From its inception, the Trust Fund has always worked the same way. The Social Security Trust Fund has never been “put into the general fund of the government."

After 5 min of checking, above is what is found.
Goes to show, what Parroting something,
without Checking the FACTS get’s ya.

But of Course.
Never waste a good crisis, to make one's self, Look Good.
As the ‘wanna be King', did:
“President Barack Obama answered CBS’s Scott Pelley’s question about whether he could guarantee that Social Security checks would go out on August 3, the day after the government is supposed to reach its debt limit: “I cannot guarantee that those checks [he included veterans and the disabled, in addition to Social Security] go out on August 3rd if we haven't resolved this issue. Because there may simply not be the money in the coffers to do it.”

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Papa Bear Senior Member Offline Posts: 476 Canada ... near the Motor City Gender:	Re: "Entitlements" Reply #2 - 04/28/18 at 13:50:17 I checked the coffers and they seem to have sprung a leak ... https://www.nationaldebtclocks.org/debtclock/unitedstates I wonder who will step up to fix that mess ?? I don't believe that politicians can fix what they naturally tend to create ..
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: "Entitlements" Reply #3 - 04/28/18 at 15:12:42 The state of the national purse looks like what happens when someone hires a crooked accountant/ business manager. Hafta drain the swamp To plug the leaks.. Considering how easily trump bit into the fake gas attack,I'm not exactly comfortable believing it's gonna happen.
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Eegore Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 9914	Re: "Entitlements" Reply #4 - 04/30/18 at 11:36:34 Do you think the gas attack was fake, or the reports on who released it are fake?
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: "Entitlements" Reply #5 - 04/30/18 at 21:54:25 Reports of residents and even some of the so called victims declaring it was all Bullshit are available. Even IF it happened Assad didn't do it. There are actually three scenarios And none of them make sense for Assad to have done it. Surely you understand how a false flag operation is done.
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Reply #6 - 05/01/18 at 05:21:13

I'm very aware of what's involved in a false flag operation, including the assessment of resources and many of the algorithms used to calculate probability of intended consequence. These are US based, I can't speak for insurgent, or Syrian based activity.

I'm also willing to verify sources, including the ownership of websites among other news outlets that report on things I'm interested in. This is why I ask for references consistently as anyone can just put out information and make it look real.

I don't think based off the people I know in Syria that the chemical attack was faked. They treated people and transported victims indicating the presence of chemical agent, however autopsies will not be done to verify. I am open to the potential that they either killed their patients themselves, or are lying.

I cant speak of who did it as I have zero facts and am not there.

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Reply #7 - 05/01/18 at 07:43:36

You don't have to be there to understand what groups are in play. And with a criminal investigation the first question is
Motive.
Assad had
Nothing, zero, zip, nada
To Gain.
Assad had everything to lose.
The rebels had everything to gain.
The white hats aren't trustworthy.
You can look up things.
Be creative. IDK who you know, but I read reports that people who lived very near the alleged attack site saw nothing.

https://www.rt.com/op-ed/358507-top-10-western-lies-syrian/

Do we Really not remember that we were fed lies to generate support for other wars?
Assad doesn't Need to use gas.
And I was RIGHT the last time when everyone else believed Assad did it.

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Reply #8 - 05/01/18 at 08:49:53

That article references the 2013 attack. Are you saying you don't believe there was chemical agent used in 2013 or in 2018?

I can't speak for 2013 as I had not been there yet, however I do know that in 2018 chemical agent was found on medical workers and patients. Or they are using makeup and falsifying their own medical records and killing their own patients. I'm not there so I can not say for sure.

I am open to the idea that the attack was not from Assad, but the preponderance of evidence I have seen, photos, video, medical records and physical scarring on staff now located in Turkey, I would say chemical agent was present.

If its fake they are doing an incredibly good job at replicating the results.

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Reply #9 - 05/01/18 at 10:04:16

I Believe their was, a gas attack.

But I Believe it was done by the Rebels.
I do Not think Assad did it.

But I don’t have a opinion, (Yet)
If the Rebels asked the US:
‘If we did a Gas attack, would you Attack the Government ?”
Or if the US said to the Rebels:
“You do a Gas attack, then we will attack the Government for you.”

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T And T Garage Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 9839	Re: "Entitlements" Reply #10 - 05/01/18 at 10:07:40 Um, I thought this was a thread about how SS is not an entitlement... Focus folks...
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Eegore Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 9914	Re: "Entitlements" Reply #11 - 05/01/18 at 10:42:13 Good point. I only think its an entitlement if you were forced to pay into it.
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T And T Garage Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 9839	Re: "Entitlements" Reply #12 - 05/01/18 at 12:10:48 Eegore wrote on 05/01/18 at 10:42:13: Good point. I only think its an entitlement if you were forced to pay into it. Huh? Not sure how that is. If I paid into it, then that money is mine. How is that an entitlement?
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: "Entitlements" Reply #13 - 05/01/18 at 12:59:03 Because, by definition, that's something are Entitled To. It's Yours. Unlike the monies Not yours That you would Claim as yours, because your Identity makes you a victim and somehow Entitled to the earnings of OTHERS.
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Re: "Entitlements"
Reply #14 - 05/01/18 at 13:13:58

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 05/01/18 at 12:59:03:

Because, by definition, that's something are Entitled To. It's Yours.
Unlike the monies Not yours
That you would Claim as yours, because your Identity makes you a victim and somehow Entitled to the earnings of OTHERS.

Would that be like, the belief that, "Snowflake, Fairy Dust Sprinklers”, have,
that they are inherently deserving of privileges or special treatment.
By claiming they are POOR, so they are,
“Entitled", to someone else’s Money ?

Oh Wait, that is the Credo of a fellow that goes by, B.S.

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