Eegore wrote on 05/03/18 at 05:55:40:
I agree that a male child identifying as a female is a confused child. I also agree that biologically that child is male, however I also agree that psychologically the line isn't as clearly defined. For instance one thing I've always wondered was why psychologists are not required to look at the organ they are treating. Some psych issues are due to physical and chemical brain changes. In any case I do believe that we can psychologically believe in things that do not exist, (hallucination, voices, multiple personality, etc.) and therefore I do think that males can believe they are psychologically a woman. Just as I've seen some that think they are Jesus, King of England, and a glass of water. I don't think we should stop assessment of a person at the biological makeup of a human body. I also think its ok to have policy that reflects the values of the company, or the employees, but I have yet to see one that won't allow employees to accurately observe a person's gender.
"... I don’t think we should stop assessment of a person at the biological makeup of a human body..."This statement, says Volumes !
Two different scenarios.
A Male, ‘identifies’, as a Female. Because they, ‘Control’, the people who Allow them to, go into the opposite sex bathrooms/dressing rooms/locker rooms/etc. They get that, ‘control’, by subversion persuading people to ‘allow’ it.
A person can be dressed as a stereotype Male in Western culture, and go into any, bathroom/dressing room/locker room, they want to. (In Gov. place or some Private places), and ALL they have to say is:
“I Identify as …”.A Male, ‘identifies’,
(And dresses as), as a Female. They have to use the bathroom. They go in, use the stall, do their business, then leave. No One bothers them.
(Well perhaps someone thinks, ‘was that a a Adams apple’?) They do Not, think of going into a place, where their, ‘pretending’, would be exposed.
Now, what is the difference, or Consensus.
One, ‘pretending’, will do his/her business, and that is all they are thinking of doing. Because even if, someone, would, ’suspect’, something, they would do nothing about it. And the, ‘Pretender’ Knows this. So they will rarely, Very Rarely, do something wrong.
One, ‘pretending’, will, maybe, do his/her business. However, Because, their is a LAW, saying if they, ‘identify’, they CAN.
They have More opportunity, (and have), to do something, ‘wrong’.
Also, a person, who is NOT, ‘Pretending’, is added to the mix, because they know, their is a LAW, ‘Allowing’ them to, ‘Pretend’.
Wonder what a reason could be, for a person, who is not a pretender, but knows that they CAN pretend, to pretend, to be a pretender.
"... I don’t think we should stop assessment of a person at the biological makeup of a human body..."What about a persons, ‘Mind’, makeup ?
The above says clearly, that if the,
“…biological makeup of a human body…” Is a Male, than,
“…I don’t think we should stop assessment of a person…”OK, so given the choice:
One person is, Given, a Free 18 hole round of Golf, with 3 other people that they enjoy company with, with Free golf cart, with Free (top of the line) Clubs.
Another one is, Given a Free, 3 hours on a range, given free, use of a firearm, given free, ammo/targets, and has 3 other people that they enjoy company with.
Admittedly, their will be more people that would choose the first, over the second.
YET, if someone would choose the second over the first. They are Shunned’, ‘Despised’, they Must be, …, …, …, etc. And saying that is absolute, perfectly, all right.
Now, let’s ask, what %, of people, ‘Pretend’,
and have a LAW, protecting them,
so they can, ‘pretend’, more?