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04/29/18 at 09:08:09
 
If a man can decide he's a woman and people are required to pretend it's true,
I'm identifying as a millionaire.
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Reply #1 - 04/29/18 at 09:15:50
 
Dinner's on you then...  Cool
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Reply #2 - 04/29/18 at 09:27:33
 
As soon as the bank is forced to ignore the obvious and how to the PC demands,
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Reply #4 - 04/30/18 at 08:21:46
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 04/29/18 at 09:08:09:
If a man can decide he's a woman and people are required to pretend it's true,..."

Ya know don't care that Jenner, is now, 'identifying', as a woman.

What I care about is, April, has, 'identified' as  February, in Minn.

"...I'm identifying as a millionaire..."
Don't see any reason that won't' work.
After all if a Man, can go into a Girls Bathroom,
  (Because he, 'Identifies', as a Woman)
                  Why Not !


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Reply #5 - 04/30/18 at 10:38:51
 
 Who is required to "pretend" its true?
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Reply #6 - 04/30/18 at 11:57:44
 
Eegore wrote on 04/30/18 at 10:38:51:
 Who is required to "pretend" its true?

So as  JOG said:
"...If a man can decide he's a woman and people are required to pretend it's true,..."

I would say:
Well it is Clear, that if one, does NOT,
Recognize, the, 'requirement'; that
(just one, the case of  B.J. identifying as a, Woman)
They are a, Raciest, Homophobic, Biased. Etc. Etc, etc, etc, etc, etc,
Including, Knuckle Dragging, KKK, and Nazi  Lover.
As described by the  Ultra Liberals.
 AND, by LAW, if one, is a male and, ‘Identifies as a Woman’,
can use a, Woman's, bathroom.

And back it up with just  ONE, law:
https://www.eeoc.gov/eeoc/publications/fs-bathroom-access-transgender.cfm
“…EEOC enforces Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, which prohibits employment discrimination based on race, color, national origin, religion, and sex (including pregnancy, gender identity, and sexual orientation…”
Then Expanded as:
“…As of March 2017, 19 states, the District of Columbia and more than 200 municipalities have anti-discrimination laws and ordinances allowing transgender people to use public facilities that correspond to their gender identity….”
https://www.cnn.com/2017/03/07/health/transgender-bathroom-law-facts-myths/in...

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Reply #7 - 04/30/18 at 17:42:28
 
When I am behind the wheel of my Mustang I pretend I am Steve McQueen.

I just can't drive as well as he could.  Embarrassed




I am more like "toonces the driving cat"
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Reply #8 - 04/30/18 at 18:33:29
 
 Those laws apply to Public bathrooms, as in those maintained at least in part by tax dollars.  It may be possible to propose legislation to reverse the admittance of men into women's bathrooms, in public, by requiring them to use the biological dictated on their birth certificate.  Where I am private businesses do not have to let men into women's bathrooms.

 How am I forced to "pretend"?  I am fully aware and state my disagreement.  I can not however tackle some guy in drag and keep him out of a public women's restroom, but again I couldn't do that to anyone for any reason.

 By my definition of forced, I would be incarcerated or otherwise judicially, punished for acknowledging a man using a women's restroom.

 Is anything like that happening anywhere?
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Reply #9 - 04/30/18 at 21:13:44
 
How am I forced to "pretend"?  

As if anyone is unaware of the requirements to
Use the preferred pronouns..
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Reply #10 - 05/01/18 at 08:42:07
 
Eegore wrote on 04/30/18 at 10:38:51:
 Who is required to "pretend" its true?


That would be anyone, that works for a Government entity,  (Public/Public Funded),  where, ‘ gender identity,’, is the the LAW. They would most certainly loose their JOB, if they would prevent it.  So if they want to keep their, government job, they are, Forced, ‘Required’, to, ‘Pretend’.

In a  Private place,  oh say, Target Stores, if one wanted to KEEP their Job, they would NOT, stop a male from using a female bathroom or dressing room.
“…Target’s policy in effect allows any customer at any time and for whatever reason to use  bathrooms or fitting rooms of the opposite sex in its stores based solely upon subjective “gender identity.”…”

‘Required’, in the case of the government, their could be a fine, jail sentence, or just firing.
In the case of private, (Target and Others), it would most probably be just firing.

Is a, ‘requirement’, like the, ’requirement’, of lifting 50 LBs, in a UPS job, a, Requirement to get that job ?
If you take that job, are you, Required to lift 50 LBs ?

If you are Black Skinned, and have a Sewing Shop, and advertise, “Custom Sewing’,
are you, ‘Required', to sew, a white sheet into a robe, and a white pillowcase into a pointed hat ?
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Reply #11 - 05/01/18 at 08:57:08
 
 "That would be anyone, that works for a Government entity,  (Public/Public Funded),  where, ‘ gender identity,’, is the the LAW. They would most certainly loose their JOB, if they would prevent it.  So if they want to keep their, government job, they are, Forced, ‘Required’, to, ‘Pretend’."


 This is incorrect, there are no federal regulations presented to staff that they must pretend or otherwise artificially modify their observations of another person.

 I believe there is a difference between allowing access to a restroom and pretending the man in there is a woman.  I may be required to allow a man access to a woman's restroom in a government facility however they can not do anything if I acknowledge that he's a man.

 I can not be fired for observing accurately that a man is allowed access to a woman's restroom.

 
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"Is a, ‘requirement’, like the, ’requirement’, of lifting 50 LBs, in a UPS job, a, Requirement to get that job ?
If you take that job, are you, Required to lift 50 LBs ?"


 Yes.  UPS can terminate employment if you can not lift 50lbs but you  request that people pretend you can.  They can not terminate employment if you can lift 50lbs but they pretend you can not.

 "If you are Black Skinned, and have a Sewing Shop, and advertise, “Custom Sewing’,
are you, ‘Required', to sew, a white sheet into a robe, and a white pillowcase into a pointed hat ?"
 

 Yes depending on law where the shop is located.  They can refuse to sew but not based off the individual making the order.  (Unlike the cake guys who refused to serve lesbians, not wedding cakes)  They are not required to pretend they sewed anything.
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Reply #13 - 05/01/18 at 09:41:15
 
Eegore wrote on 05/01/18 at 08:57:08:
 "That would be anyone, that works for a Government entity,  (Public/Public Funded),  where, ‘ gender identity,’, is the the LAW. They would most certainly loose their JOB, if they would prevent it.  So if they want to keep their, government job, they are, Forced, ‘Required’, to, ‘Pretend’."
 This is incorrect, there are no federal regulations presented to staff that they must pretend or otherwise artificially modify their observations of another person.  I believe there is a difference between allowing access to a restroom and pretending the man in there is a woman.  I may be required to allow a man access to a woman's restroom in a government facility however they can not do anything if I acknowledge that he's a man.  I can not be fired for observing accurately that a man is allowed access to a woman's restroom.    


You asked: " Who is required to "pretend" its true? "
 I will state again:
 "... if they want to keep their, government job, they are, Forced, ‘Required’, to, ‘Pretend’."
Did you, Forget: "...They would most certainly loose their JOB, if they would prevent it...."

And the:  "I can not be fired for observing accurately that a man is allowed access to a woman's restroom"

Is Perfectly True !.  (Good Deflect BTW)
One can't get fired, for turning your head, the other way.

How about a, private place, where employment requires that, employees DO, 'turn their head the other way', because their policy is: "... use  bathrooms or fitting rooms of the opposite sex... ... based solely upon subjective “gender identity.…”

What would happen if one said:
 "That looks like it's over 50 LBs"
 "That looks like a Man, going into the Ladies bathroom"






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Reply #14 - 05/01/18 at 10:33:19
 
 I am using the definition of "pretend" as follows:

1. speak and act so as to make it appear that something is the case when in fact it is not

 Nobody said anything about "preventing" in the original post.  he did not say we are required to pretend, and prevent.

 If a man is using a woman's restroom I am not going to be fired if I do not act like he is a woman.  I am allowed in a government facility, while employed by the government to act and acknowledge as if a man is in a woman's restroom.  I am not required to make it appear that he is a woman.

 I don't know what's so hard to understand about that.  Nobody can force me to pretend a man is a woman.

"What would happen if one said:
"That looks like it's over 50 LBs"
"That looks like a Man, going into the Ladies bathroom"


 Nothing.  That's my point, we can't be fired for that, we can't be incarcerated for that.  We also can't be forced to pretend those things aren't true.
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