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Re: Breaking The Law
Reply #15 - 05/08/18 at 16:41:31
 
oldNslow wrote on 05/08/18 at 16:27:38:
Nonsense. "The right to choose" is merely a political euphemism for the "right" to terminate an"inconvenient" pregnancy. Most pro-abortion folks are perfectly well aware of that, even if they pretend not to be.

 


Well, that's your opinion and you're entitled to it.  However, you should know that I'm not "pro-abortion" any more than you're "pro-killing with a gun".

I support the Second Amendment, but not those people who choose to kill others with guns.

I support a woman's right to choose, but I don't support abortion per se.

In my view, a right is a right.  We have the right to own guns in this country and women have the right to choose what they do with their bodies (just like men).
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Reply #16 - 05/08/18 at 16:46:17
 
T And T Garage wrote on 05/08/18 at 12:13:40:
Oh, I'll bet that the majority of those radical enough to bomb an abortion clinic are fervent supporters of the Second Amendment.

               Here let me change that just a little,
                     (As you so often do)
Oh, I’ll bet that the majority of those radical enough to stand in a street and block traffic and Cry, are fervent supporters of, Loot, Steel, Destroy, Set Fires.


.”…  Shouldn’t a woman have a right to choose? …”


The, ‘Choosing’ part, was done, Long Time  before, the deciding to have a Abortion was made
   (And yes, ‘Panty in a Bunch’, people. Their are rape considerations)

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Re: Breaking The Law
Reply #17 - 05/09/18 at 00:46:38
 
oldNslow wrote on 05/08/18 at 09:23:05:
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Unlike the innocent people killed in bombing of abortion clinics... funny how that works out, huh?


I don't think you'll find many gun rights advocates who either condone, or engage in, blowing up abortion clinics.


But you  aren't likely to find very many who don't take offense at being lectured about gun control by folks who think it's OK to kill babies either.



That's worth reading
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Reply #18 - 05/09/18 at 07:47:44
 
Serowbot wrote on 05/08/18 at 09:01:04:
????... Remember that Constitution thingy you're always on about?...


                     Again,  Not understanding.

The ‘Bill of Rights’, is 10 amendments.
They are Isolated from the Other, amendments.
        For the Very Reason, that they are, very Specific to government power !

In Muppet speak:
The bill of rights, speaks to, ‘RIGHTS’, that people have,
that the Government, CAN  NOT,  Take away !

 (It is NOT,  the Government,  ‘Giving’, those, ‘Rights’)

Granted,  # 4, has been, (Not Officially), changed to allow, ’Sneak & Peek’ warrants.
And further ‘changed’, by the Patriot Act.
6 & 8, have been been very much ignored.
# 9  That, was the Start of the latest Abortion laws.
When the Court , voided a State statute prohibiting use of contraceptives as an infringement of Martial Rights.
 (OH,  NOWHERE,  DOES  ANYTHING  say, EVERYONE, has to PAY,  for  ANYONE'S  Abortion)

And the Most  Abused, by  CONGRESS,  is the 10th.
Where, CONGRESS, often bypass the 10th, by invoking the Commerce Cause.

Again, the ‘Bill of Rights’, does NOT, say, ‘Abortion’ is a ‘right’.
What the supreme court did,
was make it, legal, to Kill a Human,
By saying, a sentient being, that has a Heartbeat, is NOT, a  Human.
Until it comes out of another Human.
Therefore,  it is legal,  to Kill,  a  Non Human.

YET, they contradict that, by saying, if a woman with Baby, is killed,
that killer is charged with TWO, murders.

So again, it is a  RIGHT, to stand in the street, CRY and make up LIES.
And it is Another, Right, which protects/allows, the Fairy Dust Sprinklers,
          to Sprinkle  Fairy Dust.
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Reply #19 - 05/09/18 at 17:16:18
 

In my view, a right is a right.  We have the right to own guns in this country and women have the right to choose what they do with their bodies (just like men).
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We use to have the "right" to own slaves..
So was that right?


'To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it. - G.K. Chesterton —
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Reply #20 - 05/10/18 at 05:54:27
 
View it however makes you happy
But
Not being prosecuted for killing the unborn is the law only because the constitution applies to those
BORN or Naturalized in America.

It's got nothing to do with women being so totally in control of
Their bodies
And more to do with a loophole in the way the constitution is worded.
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Reply #21 - 05/10/18 at 06:18:02
 
Matchless G11 wrote on 05/09/18 at 17:16:18:
We use to have the "right" to own slaves..
So was that right?

No, that's why it was abolished.  At the moment, abortion and owning (pretty much any) gun is legal.


'To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it. - G.K. Chesterton —


Well, as I alluded to above, there's a reason that our Constitution has so many Amendments. (I wonder if you'd agree if that quote would apply to the Second Amendment as well?)
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Re: Breaking The Law
Reply #22 - 05/10/18 at 09:18:15
 
T And T Garage wrote on 05/10/18 at 06:18:02:
"...  owning (pretty much any) gun is legal.


Would you like to elaborate on that statement ?

Or are you just,  MAKING THINGS UP,  Again ?



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Re: Breaking The Law
Reply #23 - 05/10/18 at 12:00:38
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 05/10/18 at 05:54:27:
View it however makes you happy
But
Not being prosecuted for killing the unborn is the law only because the constitution applies to those
BORN or Naturalized in America.

It's got nothing to do with women being so totally in control of
Their bodies
And more to do with a loophole in the way the constitution is worded.




Well, EXCEPT FOR the people who
Break the law
Enter illegally
And get the protections and privileges of
Citizenship.
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Re: Breaking The Law
Reply #24 - 05/10/18 at 14:11:49
 
Matchless G11 wrote on 05/09/18 at 17:16:18:
" We use to have the "right" to own slaves.. So was that right?"

            It was  NEVER, a, ‘Right’,
                  it was allowed.

"...So was that right?..."


 Then, yes.   Today, no.
That includes people, that have not only a, African heritage,
but also, Irish, Chinese, Japan, Mexican, Italian, etc.etc.etc.
 Which to a degree is STILL  Happening  TODAY !

Owning slaves, was like owning cattle..
One was ‘allowed’, it never was a, ‘right’ !
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Ben Franklin once said: "If you give up a freedom, for the sake of security, you will have neither".
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Re: Breaking The Law
Reply #25 - 05/10/18 at 18:27:46
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 05/10/18 at 12:00:38:
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 05/10/18 at 05:54:27:
View it however makes you happy
But
Not being prosecuted for killing the unborn is the law only because the constitution applies to those
BORN or Naturalized in America.

It's got nothing to do with women being so totally in control of
Their bodies
And more to do with a loophole in the way the constitution is worded.




Well, EXCEPT FOR the people who
Break the law
Enter illegally
And get the protections and privileges of
Citizenship.


I really enjoy watching the Dodge.
I post reason.
It's ignored.
Because you got NUTHIN
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