Google Android is in real danger from Huawei's just shipped Harmony OS actually splitting Android


Driven by the trade war restrictions and refusing to say they will ever stop stealing western tech from the USA companies that invented it, Huawei is now moving to split Android by releasing their new Harmony OS.

This seems to be a harsh analysis, but it is what Huawei is busy doing.

This is not illegal if you wait for the open source version to come out and you fork a version of that ---- several companies (Amazon for instance) have done this on their own and are making a fair success at it.   Amazon is the largest to fork open source Android to date and all Amazon is doing is using the released open source Android code which is two to four years past current at any given point in time.

However, Huawei is taking the current proprietary Android version and scrubbing off all the Google serial numbers, keeping clear of any distinctly "identifiable" Google features and kludging together a Huawei variant of the same functions that fits into the hole left by the Google features.  Once again, Huawei is simply stealing an American company's current technology illegally.

This will be called Harmony OS .....

Beijing doesn't care --- they like sticking a thumb into Trump's eye because there is nothing that Trump can really do about it beyond what he has already done.

Here is why Huawei may do more damage than the rest --- Huawei is the dominant phone supplier in the world right now and they are totally backed by the Beijing government.   Huawei will sell more phones next year than Samsung will, all of them stuffed with their stolen OS system.

I now regret that Motorola got sold by Google to Lenovo now because if Lenovo chooses to put Huawei's stolen OS system into their Android phones then the MAJORITY of new phones made for next year will be using the stolen Huawei OS.

This will mean another entire American industry completely lost to the Chinese.




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Follow ups published over the next 4 days show that several large US Tech suppliers stand to lose over half their market share due to Trump's trade war.  Decisions by Beijing to dump TONS of Chinese resources (100,000 software engineers, supposedly) into a new phone OS development program means that even Microsoft now considers themselves and Google to be at strong risk of being "greatly damaged by the current Trade War" since they constituted the leading edge of the wedge Trump was using to move the Chinese away from their ongoing tech stealing ways.

In the last 3 days, the Chinese verbiage has change tone from regretful to a defiant "screw you, you will regret taking this step".

Sad thing is they are likely correct.  

Historically, the fastest moving & growing simply leave the stagnant ones behind --- that is how this always works out.

Chinese business ethics are quite different from Western ethics, period.  It is a fact, get used to it.   This is not the first time Chinese companies have stolen a new tech using embedded spies located deep down inside the American companies.    Then, simply because they move a lot faster the Chinese beat the slower American firm to the greater marketplace (China and India) with that new tech (all the while actually claiming the American tech as "their innovation" simply because they got to the marketplace with it first).

https://www.seegerweiss.com/defective-products/intel-chip-security-flaw-lawsuit/

OK, it was timely that AMD went on record saying their Mattisse generation of chipsets (coming out next summer) completely moves away (architecturally and structurally) from all of Intel's speculative execution garbage.

Why?   Because Intel couldn't really fix their bugs like they tried to tell the American people they had done.

By court order, the Seegerweiss law firm of Oregon is consolidating all of the many many many separate lawsuits on record in Oregon into one (1) comprehensive judgement and awards "coordinated settlement".

What this is saying is the court itself already acknowledges that YOU HAVE BEEN DAMAGED and that Intel has been lying to folks ongoing for years now while continuing to push out the same defective "at risk" chipsets since 1995, with all this very intentional lying and misrepresentation constituting "actionable fraud" that deserves a financial settlement.

Now do you begin to get a grip on why Intel is now talking about pivoting away from the CPU business?   I suspect that Intel may soon break itself up into sub-companies, into separate pieces intentionally allocating out the corporate resources such that only one piece of the new Intel bears the burden of the class action settlement and that one piece can go bankrupt fairly quickly and minimize the payout of all of the rest of the company's resources.

Yep, that sounds like Intel all over, doesn't it?

Millions Affected
Virtually every device sold since 1995 may be affected, including computers, laptops, servers, tablets, and smartphones, from all manufacturers and using almost any operating system. This affects millions of consumers, including individuals, businesses and organizations of all sizes, academic institutions, financial institutions, hospitals and healthcare providers, government departments and agencies, and other consumers throughout the U.S.

Unprecedented in scope, this is considered one of the worst and most widespread design flaws ever found, expected to affect untold millions of users.

Consumers collectively paid billions of dollars for Intel’s defective 86-64x CPUs, which the company touted as premium products using breakthrough technology, featuring unmatched performance and security.

Shockingly, it is also possible that Intel either knew or had reason to believe that a security defect existed in its CPUs for months or even years before disclosing the fact to consumers, thereby defrauding them as well as willfully exposing them to a multitude of risks and injuries, considering computers’ widespread and diverse use.

Lawsuit Claims
The litigation against Intel claims that its processing chips were defective and inferior products that lacked the quality and capability it continuously represented in its sales and marketing materials. As such, Intel violated state deceptive trade practice statutes and warranty and tort laws by making and selling them. Plaintiffs’ claims include breach of warranty and implied warranty, violations of state consumer protection laws, fraud and fraudulent concealment, negligence, restitution, and unjust enrichment.

The case is In re Intel Corp. CPU Marketing, Sales Practices and Products Liability Litigation, MDL No. 2828 (D. Oregon).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuaiqcjf0bs

it is a video, you got to click on it to watch it

Folks, did I mention that some of Intel's oldest and very best fans are the ones that are now the most upset with Intel coming across with all the Weasel-worded Chicken-shite marketing on their newest new 10nm products?

Note please, "when the boost window expires" means when the Magic Minute ends .......  I never really understood this was actually a very severe illicit Intel BIOS overclocking that was done very intentionally by Intel ---- a very severe temporary overclocking that is only safe to do when the chipset is STONE COLD when you first turn it on.

Originally, I thought the Intel Magic Minute was just the BIOS overheat protection swinging into motion, but oh no, it was FAR MORE than that.

Remember, Intel rates and ranks their chipsets off this Magic Minute BS so they can claim to be competitive when in actuality they are ~25% worse off than that .....   then you have to add the mitigation slowdowns on top of that ~25% worse off than that with the net being ~30%.

I agree with Linus ----- Intel sucks ditch water and is really acting deceptive as hell right now.

Question of the hour is now changing to ---- can AMD and TSMC ramp up 5nm fast enough AND LARGE ENOUGH to supply the global need for CPU chipsets?  

This is being aggravated by Intel's current total failure to make 10nm work in consumer chipsets in any PC meaningful fashion.   Indeed, as of this past week Intel's current 10nm efforts still have the lower post Magic Minute & post mitigation throughput of 14nm units of two-four years ago .

Intel is losing out on the false claims based on their Magic Minute dodge as that dodge is getting called out now by MOST of the decent independent reviewers as their own credibility is now on the line now too. 

Look to see the EU fine Intel again QUITE LARGELY yet again because of the Magic Minute fiasco as this BS is the same sort of thing in essence as earlier EU fine items and Intel had simply shifted their "shifty-ness" to somewhere else and tried to call it a "test standard".

https://liliputing.com/2019/12/huaweis-arm-based-chips-could-be-coming-to-des...



Trump has motivated Huawei and the Chinese government to get serious about making up their own chipsets.   This is not good for American business or American companies, as American companies are losing 1/5 of the market instantly and also picking up a resolute fast reacting competitor who will kick their asses within a calendar year from now in the Chinese market (with more countries starting the year after that).

This is the 8 core PC version of the Huawei phone chipset that the Chinese are selling domestically right now.   Huawei also has a 64 core version for mainframe uses.   Do you begin to get a read on what I mean by "getting serious"?

Much lower cost Risc-V versions are now promised for a year from now, and this is VERY BAD for American Industry as Risc-V comes from Sweden now, not the USA.    We can't cut Huawei off from Risc-V anything, in other words.

ARM is invoking its British/Japanese origins and is closing/de-emphasizing their American design centers.




Update on 12/9/19:

China issues a national proclamation that all "foreign software and hardware" inside China will be torn out and replaced with "verified" Chinese domestic software and hardware inside of 5 years time, with 30% to be done inside year one, 30% in year two and the remainder by the end of year 3.  

Guys with rifles will come to enforce the new proclamation.

This is not the first time China has done this, China actually build a Linux implementation off an old AMD chipset base and China put that in place in their military (for security reasons) about 7 years ago.   It was sorely out of date by the time 3 years had passed.

Expect something similar to happen to this one -- except since China has gotten pretty good at stealing tech from all around the world so they can steal enough keep more current now.

In the last month we see Huawei and Amazon both cranking up 32+ core ARM server chipsets and to start selling them widely, we see AMD showing complete across the line game plans at 1 year, 3 years and 7 years --- plans  that show a clear future pathway (with a history of following these plans that Intel cannot show at all right now).

We see Huawei making up and showing a home PC version of this same ARM based technology.   Qualcomm is already doing this trick successfully, and will do more of it as they design some even stronger chipsets next year.

Watch Risc-V roll into this realm next year, as it is a clearly cheaper path to follow and with Trump's trade war out of the picture Risc-V may become a preferred technology very quickly.

We see TSMC building enough new raw plant capacity to build out all of these massive expansion plans (a new 3nm building and yet another 5nm building, etc)  giving TSMC enough real capacity to REPLACE Intel's current CPU production volume.   Because of the better 5nm Twinscan production equipment, 5nm has hit the ground running with BETTER YIELDS than 7nm right off the bat.   That efficiency translates into faster response times and lowered cost, BTW.

5nm is going to ramp up faster than any level has ever done before, ever.   Multi-level 5nm direct burn lithography already has yield rates that are better than early 7nm ever got up to.    Update Prediction: 5nm at 14 layers or better will be in full production by 2nd quarter's end, 2020.

We see Intel failing in their own plans to upgrade their own internal manufacturing capacity and Intel having to bring back several more 22nm processors back into their product line up just to make up the production gaps short term.

Watch this Intel "roll back to 22nm" trend play on out, Intel isn't going to stop with 2-3 chipsets, they will do more especially since their 22nm runs about as fast as their 14nm and 10nm really do if you factor out all the Magic Minute BS games that Intel has been playing.

Intel cannot make their already sold shipments, so they are substituting 22nm chipsets for their desperate customers who simply have to have something to sell for Christmas ........

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-claims-that-i3-9350K-is-faster-than-the-e...

This is a second independent source confirmation of the Intel bogus marketing PR claims of two days ago.

Intel claims that i3-9350K is faster than the entire Ryzen 5 lineup in fresh PR slip up

Intel's Asia Pacific marketing team claimed in China that the Intel Core i3-9350K is faster than the entire Ryzen 5 lineup. Is this a simple PR mixup or a sign of worse to come as Intel faces eroding market share, securities issues, and a supply shortage?

Dogged by controversy after controversy, Intel's Asia Pacific marketing division recently slipped up again. WCCFTech reports that, during a Chinese presentation, Intel claimed that the six-core i5-9600KF is faster than AMD's 8-core, 16-thread Ryzen 7 3800X. They then went on to compare the quad-core i3-9100F with the 6-core 3500X.

This wasn't the most controversial slide in the presentation though. On one particular slide, they claimed that the i3 9350K was faster than the entire Ryzen 5 product stack at gaming, office work, content creation, and other uses. This is factually inaccurate, something borne out in our Ryzen 3700X review.

The arrival of Ryzen has eroded Intel's dominant market position considerably. Moreover, a range of issues from security vulnerabilities to a severe supply shortage for 14nm silicon have seen the company cede further ground. Inaccurate Intel marketing claims, especially those that can be easily fact-checked, do little to improve this situation.

It is factually accurate that many mainstream Intel processors still outdo their Ryzen counterparts in gaming only workloads. This is why the i7-9700K remains such an excellent choice for high-end gaming builds. We would hope that future messaging focuses more on Intel's real strengths to draw in new consumers instead of making broad claims that are not verifiable in fact.

Ooops, "harsh reality" caught up with Intel gaming like 3 months ago, and did it again last month at yer another show.
Intel no longer rules in gaming, period.    

What we have here is Intel pushing forth some Ice Lake 10nm sample run laptop parts in a time span where they can say the AMD competition is an older generation 12-14nm product.

Can Notebookcheck say that in a very narrow slice of the last year's models notebook space that they constantly monitor that this statement of theirs is still true?   Sure, you can slice things up using the older laptop models as finely as you wish, but using a broad current paint brush across laptop and destop Intel loses on this claim to fame as of 2020 too.


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Overall yields on TSMC 5nm just went past 80% yesterday.    Much of this improved yield comes from the new 14 layer 5nm process being just about 100% all direct burn (no production masks are needed).

TSMC 5nm It is 30% faster, uses 40% less battery life, uses 20% less wafer area, and is much faster to run in production and TSMC 5nm also is ramping up a lot faster compared to TSMC 7nm.

For Intel to try to claim their Intel 7nm will be the equivalent of TSMC 5nm in any form or fashion is downright laughable, so far Intel isn't even doing "same silicon" multi-layering any at all.

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/leaked-intel-six-core-cpu-reveals-a-new-arc...

Leaked Intel Six Core CPU Reveals a New Architecture Coming Soon



You wade through the article, which one by one removes each and every known potential future CPU family and you are left with just a smelly eddy of brown Intel PR vapor slowly dissipating in the air.  

A classical Intel "fake news" item, in other words.

Overall, it's hard to make any firm conclusions based on this result. The possibilities are many and the evidence is very very thin. The one certainty is that this CPU is not a Skylake derivative. What isn't certain is whether or not this is 14nm Rocket Lake with a backported core, 10nm Tiger Lake for desktop, or something else totally different, like Ice Lake for server.

JC,

They will all run Linux.  Intel's only laptop claim to fame right now is based upon the slotting of a vague vapory "future" type of Intel processor in between the very solid generations of AMD processors.   A very momentary advantage that Intel will hoot over and brag about quite a lot over the next few months, actually, until AMD scrubs it away with their next generation of units.  

If you buy the Intel type because of the price, make sure it is a really good price and not something you will regret buying a year from now.

I myself do buy Intel processors (inside whole machines actually) that are very well used (about 10 years old) because the $75.00 whole unit price is about right to me.   Linux Mint Mate does not require state of the art hardware to run like a scalded dog.

Like most of us, I use the Intel based Linux Mint machines to browse the web, watch video and movies and to play games (and other similar very light type items that I otherwise would do on my ARM based cell phone).   I don't buy MS OS machines except incidentally, I always buy my machines with the intent to load Linux Mint on them as the main OS.