Reading between the rumor lines .......


Intel has begun sorting through all their 10nm scrap piles looking for something to sell in the second half of this year.

Intel 10nm has gone through 4 full generations now making up quite a pile of non-conforming for this reason or another, and Intel has just grown a + designation for the sorted 3 times and found "good enough to sell" product grouping.   This leaves a whole lot of "slightly broken" stuff on the sorting tables .......

Special part numbers and misleading claims will now be created for several kinds of  "features blocked off" partially functional chipsets of non-standard (less than full core count numbers).   Please Note the very large output ranges and greatly enlarged turbo numbers given out for these new part numbers ......  

Leave it to Intel to present a damaged sub-optimal performance chipset as "turbo enhanced".

Sound all boringly familiar to you ........ ?

7nm Intel is again being called "10nm Intel" whenever the failed Intel 7nm product is "mostly good enough" to sell but not up to the already very broad specifications of an Intel 7nm product.





ONCE AGAIN, DO NOT BUY A 10nm INTEL ANYTHING ..... BUY AMD OR APPLE INSTEAD.     (AMD is much much cheaper than Apple right now)

Intel is still deep deep deep into tweeked metrics and outright lying to their customers ---- simply avoid Intel 10nm and 7nm at point in this time.

Something new since last week ......

AMD is seeing large orders from large name brand "completed PC" builders that are taking up 100% of AMD's real ongoing capacity ( ie the stuff that is actually rolling off their chiplet to processor assembly lines).

AMD must focus on orders already committed to the major builders, which means a STRONG shortfall on the single processor hobby side of things will be showing up very shortly at Mindshare.de in Germany.

I am now looking for news of new AMD 5nm chiplet into processor assembly plants being built and new significantly increased 5nm chiplet orders being placed on TSMC by AMD.

It is a bit too late to react to 7nm suddenly swinging over to AMD (and not the best way to spend your capital $$$ right now anyway).   A smart chiplet to processor robotics line would be able to use 7nm and 6nm and 5nm (and possibly 3nm chiplets) with a minimal change over.

Put your spend on your next generational future, always.
Always be able to execute your plan ON TIME .....

Expect the pricing on AMD stuff to shoot up a bit at retail due to higher end user demand.


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AMD will be rewarded for meeting all orders on time with first rate processors.

NOT DOING THIS LEAVES THE DOOR OPEN FOR THE COMPETITORS TO WALK ON IN AND TRY TO TAKE OVER SOME MARKET SHARE.

https://techgage.com/news/amd-launches-zen-2-based-ryzen-ryzen-pro-4000g/

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-ryzen-4000-series-4000G-renoir-APU-eigh...



Folks have been attending the AMD launch events for Ryzen 4000 G Series (improved desktop products that do not need a graphics card to do gaming).  

Intentionally, AMD will only sell Ryzen 4000 G Series to name brand machine builders as AMD feels that Intel's restrictive builder agreements have been abrogated due to Intel's failure to remain competitive and that Intel actually provides an escape clause in their current lockdown agreements and that builders should take advantage of this escape clause before Intel tries to remove it.

This is fairly important stuff that is coming out right now that will only get one more set of improvements late this year or early next year before AMD replaces it with 5nm AMD chiplet based products.

Note Please:  The direct burn lithography used in this Ryzen 4000 chip can lay down 7 "direct focus" burn layers into the same piece of substrate.   Next year's 5nm will be able to burn 14 layers deep into the same substrate.   But the 7 layers you can get now gives two full sized layers on top of the graphics GPU and several full layers of graphics memory along with several full layers of on chiplet L1 and L2 cache memory and several full sized layers of system level L3 cache.  

There is a WHOLE LOT of fast direct access memory resting native on the CPU and GPU direct burn silicon substrate portions.

The fact that this is an OEM-only launch should be addressed first, because we know that many of our readers have been anxiously awaiting the launch of these chips. After all, Zen 2 + integrated graphics sounds pretty darn tasty – especially since we’ve already seen people do really cool things with the older models.

Based on what we heard during the briefing for these chips, it seemed obvious that AMD wanted to cater to what’s really the most massive market with this release. Chips like these are perfect for vendors to jump on now, because it removes the need for a discrete GPU, allowing them to build modest form-factor rigs with sizeable compute power and great graphics.

A rough estimate was provided that the OEM market is at least five times larger than DIY, so AMD clearly wants to make sure its vendor partners to have ample supply of these chipsets.

Ample supply will be important, too, because there are many models of these Renoir chips launching today. We’ve typically seen AMD release just a few for any given APU launch, but there are many (at the bottom) here:

When comparing to the last-gen Ryzen PRO parts, there’s no doubt that these new chips are a major step forward. Again, we’re seeing nicely augmented single-threaded performance, dramatically improved multi-thread performance, and a nice boost to graphics. Compared to the previous generation, AMD claims that its new 4650G can perform about 20% better in Microsoft applications, peaking at 53% with Excel. Knowing all of the improvements made in these new chips, none of that would surprise us.

While it’s unfortunate that the DIY crowd is skipped over for this launch, AMD made it clear that there are APUs en route for those users, but likely, they will not carry over the verbatim naming of these newly-launched chips.


Cores      Clock (Turbo)      L2+L3      Memory              TDP      Price
Ryzen Threadripper Pro
3995WX      64 (128T)      2.7 GHz (4.2)      288MB      Eight      280W      OEM
3975WX      32 (64T)      3.5 GHz (4.2)      144MB      Eight      280W      OEM
3955WX      16 (32T)      3.9 GHz (4.3)      72MB      Eight      280W      OEM
3945WX      12 (24T)      4.0 GHz (4.3)      70MB      Eight      280W      OEM
Ryzen Threadripper
3990X      64 (128T)      2.9 GHz (4.3)      288MB      Quad      280W      $3990
3970X      32 (64T)      3.7 GHz (4.5)      144MB      Quad      280W      $1999
3960X      24 (48T)      3.8 GHz (4.5)      140MB      Quad      280W      $1399
Ryzen 9
R9 3950X      16 (32T)      3.5 GHz (4.7)      72MB      Dual      105W      $749
R9 3900XT      12 (24T)      3.8 GHz (4.7)      70MB      Dual      105W      $499
R9 3900X      12 (24T)      3.8 GHz (4.6)      70MB      Dual      105W      $499
Ryzen 7
R7 3800XT      8 (16T)      3.9 GHz (4.7)      36MB      Dual      105W      $399
R7 3800X      8 (16T)      3.9 GHz (4.5)      36MB      Dual      105W      $399
R7 3700X      8 (16T)      3.6 GHz (4.4)      36MB      Dual      65W      $329
Ryzen 5
R5 3600XT      6 (12T)      3.8 GHz (4.5)      35MB      Dual      95W      $249
R5 3600X      6 (12T)      3.8 GHz (4.4)      35MB      Dual      95W      $249
R5 3600      6 (12T)      3.6 GHz (4.2)      35MB      Dual      65W      $199
R3 3300X      4 (8T)      3.8 GHz (4.3)      18MB      Dual      65W      $120
R3 3100      4 (8T)      3.6 GHz (3.9)      18MB      Dual      65W      $99
Ryzen PRO w/ Radeon Vega Graphics
R7 PRO 4750G      8 (16T)      3.6 GHz (4.4)      12MB      Dual      65W      OEM
R5 PRO 4650G      6 (12T)      3.7 GHz (4.2)      11MB      Dual      65W      OEM
R3 PRO 4350G      4 (8T)      3.8 GHz (4.0)      6MB      Dual      65W      OEM
Ryzen w/ Radeon Vega Graphics
R7 4700G      8 (16T)      3.6 GHz (4.4)      12MB      Dual      65W      OEM
R7 4700GE      8 (16T)      3.1 GHz (4.3)      12MB      Dual      35W      OEM
R5 4600G      6 (12)      3.7 GHz (4.2)      11MB      Dual      65W      OEM
R5 4600GE      6 (12)      3.3 GHz (4.2)      11MB      Dual      35W      OEM
R3 4300G      4 (8T)      3.8 GHz (4.0)      6MB      Dual      65W      OEM
R3 4300GE      4 (8T)      3.5 GHz (4.0)      6MB      Dual      35W      OEM
Athlon Gold 3150G      4 (4T)      3.9 GHz      6MB      Dual      65W      OEM
Athlon Gold 3150GE      4 (4T)      3.8 GHz      6MB      Dual      35W      OEM
Athlon Silver 3050GE      2 (4T)      3.4 GHz      5MB      Dual      35W      OEM
R5 3400G      4 (8T)      3.7 GHz (4.2)      0.5+4MB      Dual      65W      $149
R3 3200G      4 (4T)      3.6 GHz (4.0)      0.5+4MB      Dual      65W      $9



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https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-ryzen-4000-series-4000G-renoir-APU-eigh...

Renoir expands AMD's maximum APU core count to eight, allowing AMD to challenge all but the one very best Intel chipset -- Intel's ten-core Core i9-10900/K -- in pre-built systems that come without a discrete graphics card.

Given the distribution of high-end vs. low-end pre-builts (and noting that Intel's VERY pricey ten-core Core i9-10900/K ten-core pre-builts likely don't comprise a large portion of the sales mix anyway) the new AMD Renoir APU series should be enough to challenge Intel successfully everywhere in the vast plethora of OEM systems.

Given AMD's inherent advantages, like overwhelmingly faster integrated graphics, generally lower price points and much lower power consumption, the Renoir chips could be just the catalyst the company needs to take big strides in the high-volume and lucrative OEM market.

Let's just hope that OEMs pair the new AMD chips with capable coolers, motherboards, and dual-channel RAM to get the most out of the Renoir architecture.

Given what we've seen from Renoir chips in leaked test results, they look exceptionally promising at their higher power ratings due to the unified L3 cache. Naturally, that will lead to speculation that these Ryzen 4000 chips could disrupt AMD's own carefully manicured retail Ryzen 3000 stack, but at a lower price point than the XT- and X-series chips. That means the Renoir chips could be exceptionally potent at gaming with discrete GPUs, thus reducing the need for gamers to purchase more expensive Ryzen 3000 models. We'll see as systems filter out.

 Man that old Joe Cartoon site was hilarious.  How there isn't more Insert-Name-Here in a Blender copies is beyond me.

https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/coming-soon/ThinkCentre-M75n-IoT/p/WMD00000408?c...

Lenovo has started using AMD low power chipsets in fanless air-cooled finned aluminum boxes like this. Lenovo is getting PC level power & fairly decent gaming power off a 10-16 watt graphics included chipset.  These are currently 12nm and 7nm chipsets, with next year's promise being based on the 14 layer 5nm chiplet based products from a year from now.

We were just promised a revolution by AMD in what we considered a "PC" and this one may tend to show us what that might tend to look like going a year out into the future.

5nm and smaller lithography will make this all get smaller and a lot less finny looking ...... while giving better compute power and much better gaming graphics.
Or, the box can stay the same and Lenovo can just pack in a lot more processing power to match the fairly good cooling capacity that they already have designed into that case.





Tough and durable
Thanks to tailored, triangular-shaped fins, the ThinkCentre M75n IoT dispels heat more efficiently than most other compact PCs. In fact, this industrial PC can handle ambient air temperatures up to 50˚C (122˚F), more than enough for most work environments. And being military grade tested for durability and reliability, it can also withstand vibrations, humidity, shocks, and dust.


Front View

1. Power on/off
2. 2 x Serial port
3. USB-C (USB 3.1, Gen 2)
4. USB 2.0
5. USB 3.1 (Gen 2)
6. Headphone / mic combo


Easy as A, B, USB-C
As light as a paperback book, thinner than the height of a golf ball, the ThinkCentre M75n IoT is easy to deploy and manage. It’s fanless too, which means it's whisper quiet. And it's rich in ports, including USB-C, making accelerated connectivity and future expansion a snap.

Front view of the ThinkCentre M75n IoT, highlightng the array of ports

Back View

7. Power-in
8. DisplayPort
9. USB 3.1 (Gen 2)
10. USB-C (USB 3.1, Gen 2, DisplayPort)
11. RJ45
12. Kensington lock slot

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-ryzen-9-4950x-rumor-could-it-spell-trou...

Intel had one (1) good chipset that still held on to the very last gaming crown for Intel.   Now AMD is gunning for that very last Intel crown and has started the Zen 3 moves needed to take it.


Over at Igor's Lab, sources have indicated that the upcoming Ryzen 9 4950X will have a boost frequency of 4.8 GHz, which is seriously impressive given that it's expected to be a 16-core, 32-thread part.

Reports indicate that this is the successor to the 3950X, likely to be called the 4950X -- unless AMD jumps straight to the 5000 naming nomenclature for the Zen 3 "Vermeer" parts, in which case it will likely be called the 5950X.

A move such as this wouldn't be all too surprising given that the current 4000-series chips are APUs based on the Zen 2 architecture.  AMD has also already confirmed that it will release the first Zen 3 based processors this year, which paired with this rumor could spell some serious number-crunching hardware from Team Red.

Although Intel might be running behind in the process node race, it has always had the upper hand in the GHz race, which is what most games tend to favor in the end.

If this rumor is true that AMD's new Zen 3 parts will boost to over 5 GHz, as such it might also end up taking the crown for best gaming CPU quite soon. A new architecture, paired with these higher frequencies could lead AMD to clearly win in both on per-core performance as well as multi-core performance.

For comparison, the current Zen 2 based 3950X has a base clock of 3.5 GHz and a boost clock of up to 4.7 GHz, which isn't much lower.  It isn't really surprising to see AMD's current shipping chips boosting to 4.8 GHz, as it is only 100 MHz more than the current-gen parts and AMD has shown as that its silicon yields are now good enough to support higher boost frequencies, as is proven by the new XT line of processors.


Zen 3 is at 5nm 14 layer lithography and it was promised to land at over 5Ghz processor clock speeds very early next year ...........    the general trend lately is that AMD stuff comes out earlier than planned simply because everything is ready to go a bit earlier than pessimistically thought originally.

   eeek !!  The old good ship USS Intel, it's GONE


Check very carefully for an outline on bottom or sides of the bowl --- it may have color matched itself to the surroundings or burrowed on into the surface so it can try to hide from the AMD sharks.

Or, it may have transformed into something else entirely ......   or else gone on down the S trap to start on the inevitable long long journey to the sea like any venerable old turd should most properly have done.

The old Intel plants may still make some more old style chipsets off the same old 14nm process lines (for a while anyway) until they become completely obsolete and totally uneconomical to try to sell them anymore .....  

...... but by then will Intel be back in some other new form ???


Or will it have followed 14nm Global Foundry into irrelevance?