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Heeey, Abbooot, that's a good idea
05/30/18 at 09:56:23
 
Governor Abbott has suggested that a room be made available for cops to use for paperwork, swing by, use the bathroom,  and just generally be a presence in the schools.
That's a great idea.
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Reply #1 - 05/30/18 at 10:02:14
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 05/30/18 at 09:56:23:
Governor Abbott has suggested that a room be made available for cops to use for paperwork, swing by, use the bathroom,  and just generally be a presence in the schools.
That's a great idea.


worked great in Santa Fe...  

oh, wait, cops were actually there, armed and everything...   and yet....

Edit: although, to be fair, the kids do report that the cops drew fire from the shooter so, the victim tally would have been higher, but let's not kid ourselves and think this is a panacea and will fix everything
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Reply #2 - 05/30/18 at 10:23:02
 
And yet what?
It's not PERFECT?
Seatbelts don't always save you
Cops get shot
Life is not fair
Deal with it
Is it
Better
To be armed and able to fight back
Or
Unarmed and a bullet sponge?
Is it better to wear a seatbelt and have injuries lessened?
You DEMAND perfection
Or it's not a good answer
Funny how turdacious Bamicare is and how much the same people who are against common sense gun carrying.
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Reply #3 - 05/30/18 at 12:06:41
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 05/30/18 at 10:23:02:
And yet what?
It's not PERFECT?
Seatbelts don't always save you
Cops get shot
Life is not fair
Deal with it
Is it
Better
To be armed and able to fight back
Or
Unarmed and a bullet sponge?
Is it better to wear a seatbelt and have injuries lessened?
You DEMAND perfection
Or it's not a good answer
Funny how turdacious Bamicare is and how much the same people who are against common sense gun carrying.



you assume too much. I'm not against that idea at all, just saying that it IS ALREADY IN PLACE in many places, and it helps but it's not any better than anything we already have. it's NOT AN ANSWER, IT'S ALREADY A REALITY.  

it's like you're praising Abbot for saying that the sky is blue...  

Edit:

so darn defensive and offensive all the time... are you actually trying to convince people to be on your side????
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Reply #4 - 05/30/18 at 21:03:28
 
I Assume Nothing
You STATED that since armed guards were THERE and Failed to avoid people being killed and wounded, in fact, some of the
Professional Gun Toters were SHOT, so that PROVES more guns won't stop the problem.
Do you REALLY think that one or two of these shooters dying or getting wounded before they kill their quota is gonna STOP the insanity that the Left visited upon us?
WTF?
Only RECENTLY have we seen publicity about any schools doing what people like me say needs done.
Let the

Show up shooting
Get SHOT

Message get out.

Idiots want to pretend that because there is a new direction and it's gonna take a while for it to be completely realized it's a failure.
Why are you people so unable to see what Bamicare is?
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Reply #5 - 05/31/18 at 06:56:16
 

 The idea is to encourage law enforcement presence at public schools.

 Why is this a bad idea?
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Reply #6 - 05/31/18 at 08:31:49
 
The heck if I know.
Why an immediate abandonment of the failed Signs and efforts to harden the schools isn't accepted by everyone is unbelievable.
Well, maybe they are afraid of looking responsible for the death and misery caused by the program they so foolishly believed in. That's what will happen, after we start doing what should have been done, and things change, then everyone will see how stupid the signs were.
Funny thing about guns.
When carjacking was a pastime for armed thugs, the governor didn't have the cops arresting everyone and taking guns, he told the People
Arm yourselves and fight back.

And it's been a whole new ball game since.

Ahh, but schools
For some reason it's bad to defend the precious with guns.

Huhh?
That's EXACTLY HOW you defend.

So WTF IS the REASON for Not wanting armed teachers and cops?

It's not about REASON.
It's because it's impossible to brainwash the kids into being antigun while the teacher's packing heat.
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"It's because it's impossible to brainwash the kids into being antigun while the teacher's packing heat."

 Spend a few months with high school kids discussing school shootings and you might change your mind.  I don't think armed anything will alter the huge impression social media and 24/7 interconnected social structures have.  This is compounded by your average teenager's natural brain chemistry to challenge and directly conflict with the principles of their primary relationships.  

 Some US soldiers (specifically infantry and similar) are anti-gun, that should say something.
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Reply #8 - 05/31/18 at 11:09:28
 
The lefties, who own and operate most media and schools, have been pushing gun control ideas for decades.
Zero tolerance, chew a pastry into a gun shape, get arrested ,  
Idiocy,
That's part of it.
That soldiers are now antigun means nothing to me.
They are Wrong.
And a study of history and an understanding of the natural state of man will show that.
Banks STILL get robbed.
But you take away from them the ability to have armed guards and see how much that increases.
Why is that so hard to get?
Nobody sees the connection between
No Gun Zone shootings?
The ridiculous position that
Since armed guards got Shot and the shooter Did manage to kill,
OBVIOUSLY armed guards are Not the answer is so ludicrous that it's astounding.

Don't wear a helmet
Ride in shorts
Because you can get hurt no matter what you have on, so it's stupid to dress for a crash.

Why send in the Army?
They don't matter.
See? All the training and equipment and they still DIE.

But you lefties keep on pretending that because good guys with guns got Shot,
That's proof that good guys with guns is a bad idea.

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 I agree signs don't stop crime, however I do not agree that armed teachers will cause 100 percent of kids to not become advocates of gun control(antigun).  I'm not sure that armed teachers will very much influence their stance at all, given how children of that age assess the world around them and develop ethical standards.  

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Eegore wrote on 06/01/18 at 11:29:27:
 I agree signs don't stop crime, however I do not agree that armed teachers will cause 100 percent of kids to not become advocates of gun control(antigun).  I'm not sure that armed teachers will very much influence their stance at all, given how children of that age assess the world around them and develop ethical standards.  

First, going to use the word, ’Teachers’, in this and like cases, as a Person, who is willing, understands, skilled, safe, who has or will take another level of training in firearms, and can be a, Teacher, Secretary, Principal, Assistant, Janitor, Hall walker, etc.  (Which should satisfy the Panty In A Bunch Snowflakes, who will say, “OMG you want to  just pass out guns to teachers”.

“…I agree signs don’t stop crime…” Ah-Yea !

“…however I do not agree that armed teachers will cause 100 percent of kids to not become advocates of gun control(antigun). …”

No one said,  100% will go one way of the other.

YET: “…not sure that armed teachers will very much influence their stance at all…”
I believe, armed ’teachers’, will cause, LESS,  ‘Anti-Gun’, belief.

Because, when the anti Gun Media, LIES to them, that Guns are bad’.
They will not believe it, because they, know, see, experience,
that Mr/Mrs Johnson, is a Nice Person, and they carry a Gun.
So Guns can not be Bad, or a, nice person, would not have one.

Unlike now, where they are, ’Taught’, by the Media only ONE SIDE,
that, ‘Guns’ are Bad.  
And because NONE of their Teachers carry,
Or, (in many places), even Allowed to say, “Guns are NOT  bad”.
They will ONLY  hear ONE  side.
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Reply #11 - 06/01/18 at 19:47:05
 
Thank you.
Explaining what, to me, is obvious, just hurts
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Reply #12 - 06/02/18 at 04:25:36
 
Eegore wrote on 06/01/18 at 11:29:27:
 I agree signs don't stop crime, however I do not agree that armed teachers will cause 100 percent of kids to not become advocates of gun control(antigun).  I'm not sure that armed teachers will very much influence their stance at all, given how children of that age assess the world around them and develop ethical standards.  



That's a statement that deserves examination.

Do high schoolers assess the world and develop ethical standards?
What did the last couple of shooters asses and develop?

If it were known, multiple teachers had weapons, police were routinely in the building, would either the Florida or Texas shootings had happened?
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Reply #13 - 06/02/18 at 06:57:10
 
my LA high school in the 60s had a closed campus only one way in after classes started with armed security guards on patrol
today our local schools here have "community service officers" (armed police in uniform)on campus
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Reply #14 - 06/02/18 at 08:13:01
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 06/01/18 at 19:47:05:
Thank you.  Explaining what, to me, is obvious, just hurts


Sorry you had to sit through that.
Sometimes it can’t be helped.
Like when I was behind the counter, and answered,
(With A Smile), the question:
“What’s the difference between a DA and a SA”

Some people are just lost,
and cannot understand, you or me.
Posted a simple explanation,
so hopefully people who are lost,
will be able to understand it.    

Won’t change anyones  mind,
(The phrase come to mind:
‘Never Mind the Facts,
My Mind is Made Up’
)

But a least, they, may, understand it.
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