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Reply #1 - 06/02/18 at 04:19:23
 
In politics today, you never cheer for the other team. Never.

It's still far too early to predict midterms, but I'm leaning towards Trump will be one of those rare Presidents that buck the trend and doesn't lose House or Senate control.
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Reply #2 - 06/02/18 at 06:43:40
 
I agree that the Blue Wave was a passing thing. But the federal reserve and their interest rates can screw everything Trump has accomplished.
Hafta wait and see..
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Reply #3 - 06/02/18 at 06:50:23
 
Pelosi is a moron..

I cant see how the last 8 years of unemployment decline can be attributed to any thing Trump has done
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Reply #4 - 06/02/18 at 08:25:01
 
It was said:
"Following the better than expected jobs data pushed the unemployment rate to its lowest in almost 50 years, the California politician issued a statement seemingly proclaiming that all of this is bad news for US workers”

HERE is the Funny thing.
 The Metro Areas in Calf will VOTE for her,
    and she will get Reelected.

Because their will be more votes,
       than in the Rural areas,
where people, WORK, for a living.

(OH, what is the qualifier to Vote in Calf?
 A Cable TV  Bill, with your name on it ?)

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Reply #5 - 06/02/18 at 10:41:24
 
thumperclone wrote on 06/02/18 at 06:50:23:
Pelosi is a moron..

I cant see how the last 8 years of unemployment decline can be attributed to any thing Trump has done


Ask the recently employed.
Maybe read something.
But you are not gonna find That answer on CNN.

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Reply #6 - 06/02/18 at 12:00:05
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 06/02/18 at 10:41:24:
thumperclone wrote on 06/02/18 at 06:50:23:
Pelosi is a moron..

I cant see how the last 8 years of unemployment decline can be attributed to any thing Trump has done


Ask the recently employed.
Maybe read something.
But you are not gonna find That answer on CNN.


look at the graph you posted
no need for you to be snide...
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Reply #7 - 06/02/18 at 19:28:36
 
I know the graph.
Explaining the meaning of it as the number of unemployed stopped being counted because they ran out of benefits shows a fake reality.
I'm not going to even try to explain it.
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Reply #8 - 06/03/18 at 04:23:10
 
thumperclone wrote on 06/02/18 at 06:50:23:
Pelosi is a moron..

I cant see how the last 8 years of unemployment decline can be attributed to any thing Trump has done

Yea, Obama's 10 year economic plan is coming together right on schedule.......
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Reply #9 - 06/03/18 at 04:39:08
 
But seriously, business responds when they feel condions are right to minimize risks. They respond more to Trump than Obama.

A lot of statistics are out there but here's a big one. Consumer confidence is up under Trump, we've all heard that and regardless if liberals will admit it or not, its true. But here's a great subsection of that group: the confidence level has increased the highest in the lowest income group.

They want that tax break. The people who want to work are finding jobs. Those people will vote. Now, some will be foolish enough to fall for the old "Democrats are behind the poor people" scam, but many will start to see the truth. There will be no blue wave. At best, a high tide, but that's it.
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Reply #10 - 06/05/18 at 14:49:24
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 06/02/18 at 19:28:36:
I know the graph.
Explaining the meaning of it as the number of unemployed stopped being counted because they ran out of benefits shows a fake reality.
I'm not going to even try to explain it.



have they changed that practice in the last 2 years?
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Reply #11 - 06/05/18 at 15:05:32
 
WebsterMark wrote on 06/03/18 at 04:23:10:
thumperclone wrote on 06/02/18 at 06:50:23:
Pelosi is a moron..

I cant see how the last 8 years of unemployment decline can be attributed to any thing Trump has done

Yea, Obama's 10 year economic plan is coming together right on schedule.......



sometimes it's better to have a realistic base line developed before creating bubbles and playing with debt to "create growth"

basically Obama fixed the foundation, and Trump gets to play until it breaks again, and it will, maybe not under Trump

I'm happy for the people who have jobs and full employment and all that, but, so far, $1.5 Trillion to pay back still, and upcoming tariff wars

yeah, there's math I haven't done yet, so it may not be $1.5 Trillion still, but, we are still caring over a half Trillion in deficits yearly ($666 billion in deficits for 2017 - that's up from $585 billion in 2016)   are we on a Trump budget yet?  of course the numbers for 2018 aren't in yet

numbers above from: https://www.thebalance.com/current-u-s-federal-government-tax-revenue-3305762

Let's not count our roosters before they are hatched okay?

slow and steady

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Reply #12 - 06/05/18 at 15:29:43
 
WebsterMark wrote on 06/03/18 at 04:39:08:
But seriously, business responds when they feel condions are right to minimize risks. They respond more to Trump than Obama.

A lot of statistics are out there but here's a big one. Consumer confidence is up under Trump, we've all heard that and regardless if liberals will admit it or not, its true. But here's a great subsection of that group: the confidence level has increased the highest in the lowest income group.

They want that tax break. The people who want to work are finding jobs. Those people will vote. Now, some will be foolish enough to fall for the old "Democrats are behind the poor people" scam, but many will start to see the truth. There will be no blue wave. At best, a high tide, but that's it.



well, yeah, most business owners are republican so they like when their team is winning.  

yeah, when your boss is more optimistic, happy because his side is winning, less suspicious that the President will do something against their own philosophy then yeah, that optimism will actually trickle down, moods are contagious, kinda, for some

We'll see about the blue wave, it might not be as big as it once was projected to be, but historically, in the midterms the party opposite the president gains seats, But the democrats aren't as on message as the republicans were, liberals don't tend to march in line like conservatives.

oh, and money isn't everything, liberals aren't motivated by that as much as conservatives, not saying that it won't matter completely but social issues, and yes, feelings will get democratic voters out.

we'll see how it goes, anything can happen between now and voting time.
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Reply #13 - 06/05/18 at 15:37:20
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 06/01/18 at 20:53:16:



just pointing this out, so you can avoid it in the future, using 3 k's to mis-spell kicking, just to be funny, well, it makes and association between Trump and KKK in that sentence. so I know that's not what you meant, and I'm going to repeat this a few time so you actually absorb it,  I know that's not what you meant,  I know that's not what you meant, I know that's not what you meant, but sometimes when you're trying to be clever, sh!t happens.
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Reply #14 - 06/05/18 at 16:26:48
 
LostArtist wrote on 06/05/18 at 15:29:43:
well, yeah, most business owners are republican so they like when their team is winning. ..." 


Wait, did I read that correctly,
      it's Not a Typo ?
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