.....and if they come back, what then?

Leftist loved calling Trump Hitler (ridiculous but whatever) but what if we really had a Hitler?

We impeach,.. we vote him out...

Which is happening now.

Actually, it's not happening now but that's a separate topic. One day, someone won't leave. Someone will want to use the military as their own personal guard to enforce their rule. Happened to many different countries. Is Trump going to try that? No. The next President? No. But if history repeats itself, it will or rather would at some point in the future.....IF the populace isn't armed.

No, I didn't load up. .22 shells were hard to get for a while.


99.9% of all weapons are not used in illegal acts. There are 350 million guns in the US. Everywhere you go, you pass by thousands of homes, business, and people with guns.

Multitudes of kids are killed texted and driving with no debate about banning cell phones.

You say we overreact when enforcing immigration controls because of a 'few bad apples', yet you are asking hundreds of millions of Americans to change their ways because of a few?

This reminds me of the Aids talk years ago. I heard the phrase countless times; Aids doesn't discriminate.     Well, actually it discriminates a lot. With the exception of accidental blood transfusions, you had to take risk to get infected. So it is with guns, most gun deaths are criminal acts. In St Louis, most of the deaths are between, let's call them willing participates.

Serowbot wrote on 06/07/18 at 07:16:56:

"   Did you load up yer' AK when Obama was elected? ..."

            Perhaps some did.
However I believe it was the sound, of all those,
    'Mart-Mart', Shotgun's bolt's closing.
That made the former, POTUS, think,
          'not gonna go their'.

You didn't.
They didn't make you.
You know the
Pink house story?
Absolute travesty of justice.

Only when the tyranny affects enough people will there be a rebellion.

Why do you think every time
They do something that will be very unpopular do they
Institute that Policy
Incrementally?

Eegore wrote on 06/07/18 at 14:24:06:

"...   It does happen to me, I had to fight for years to stop the US Dept of Army from taking part of my land in the Pinon Canyon expansion.  Never loaded a gun, never lost my land, we used more modern techniques to defund the expansion as we figured we wouldn't have enough firepower to keep the Army or local law enforcement from taking the land by force. ..."

Congratulations, on the above,  you used the, “… more modern techniques…”,  to make your point and to get your way.

I know you don’t think so,    But I do.
The fact that the 2nd Exists,  
         IS, the reason,
(Of course as well as, making your point in a concise way)
your points/discussions/ideas, prevailed.

Because simply, if their was no, ‘outdated’, 2nd,
     you would have simply lost,
as the larger power would have just rolled over you,
regardless how good your talking points were.

Personally owned firearms today, not in the past, but today will not prevent the taking of land by the US Government.

I believe it could. Is that a certainty? No, but I think an awful lot of US citizens would rather have the option to fight than be turned in Socialist Nazi Germany.

WebsterMark wrote on 06/08/18 at 05:00:55:



 I agree that US citizens would rather have an option to fight, which is why I have never recommended the 2nd be removed or altered in a way that reduces its capacity to allow US free citizens to possess personally owned firearms.

 Updating by my definition is not removal.  I don't have a better way to convey that updating would not involve the reduction of the 2nd's capacity to allow the ownership of firearms.  

 I'm interested in how creating a modern definition for "well regulated militia" or replacing, (not removing without immediate replacement) the phrase altogether, will result in a socialist country.  

 What's happening now is the "Lobster effect" as more and more citizens agree that a well regulated militia is not all people, but the National Guard etc.  Eliminating that factor in turn eliminates that argument and I don't see how that's bad.