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Donald has been played like a skin flute
06/12/18 at 07:20:01
 
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/12/opinion/trump-kim-summit-north-korea.html

Honk if you're surprised. Donald is a legend in his own lunchtime.
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Reply #1 - 06/12/18 at 07:28:33
 
Yuge win....   for NK...  Huh
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Reply #2 - 06/12/18 at 08:25:31
 
Considering how difficult it is to get the left to see the obvious, that you would see stopping war games as a win for Anyone but us is not surprising.
Isn't it odd how much you stood against a military parade, because of cost and optics, yet STOPPING a YUGE waste of money and the continued bullying, threatening and posturing is Somehow a loss. Wow,  

Legitimacy is something to concede if you want to work WITH someone.
Otherwise, you're Dictating terms.
That's not what negotiation is.

If Obama had done it, you'd all be orgasmically spasming on the floor.

All the Bullshit about what a bully Trump is,, and when he's not, you're critical.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5834437/They-great-beaches-Trump-show...


Here's how change is fostered. If you think it's all done and results should be manifested and we can see the end of the deal, you're ignorant of how things work.

This is gonna take time.
And Trump is making YUGE steps toward your future being more prosperous and fewer reasons for military intervention.

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Reply #3 - 06/12/18 at 09:39:37
 
@JoG,

Glad you enjoy being taken for a fool. N.Korea has been demanding that the US stop the joint military manoeuvres for years. The US has has conceded everything and received nothing in return other complete humiliation by your buffoon of a president. Lot's more fun to come yet. Donald's pathetic posturing is simply for the hometown  fools to lap up.

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/06/12/trump-kim-meeting-what-happened-637545

The joint statement notably did not feature the phrase “complete, verifiable, irreversible, denuclearization” (or “dismantlement”), which Secretary of State Mike Pompeo had previously suggested was nonnegotiable.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/06/trump-kim-summit-ends-with-historic-
photo-op-but-few-specifics.html
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Reply #4 - 06/12/18 at 09:45:21
 
How do you get that?
Trump is the best president of my life, bar none. Your inability to see what he is doing doesn't Change anything.
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Reply #5 - 06/12/18 at 09:47:03
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 06/12/18 at 09:45:21:
How do you get that?
Trump is the best president of my life, bar none. Your inability to see what he is doing doesn't Change anything.


Oh I get it now. I've genuinely been taking you seriously, fool me. Good one JoG you had me hook line and sinker. Tip o' the hat. Had you not gone pushed it so far on that last post you'd have been able to keep me going for a lot longer.
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Reply #6 - 06/12/18 at 09:47:58
 
Jog, as you know I work for Boeing, but not much longer  Grin

It is a HUGE company, huge.....
Its holding are vast and wide, across all spectrum's of economic development and investments.

I can't divulge too much, but what I will say here is public knowledge.
Economic growth for the next 20 years, will come from Asia.
This area of the world will drive prosperity to anybody engaged, and invested, in this expansion.

Europe was yesterday, and will not rise to such a opportunity, a poor choice to put your eggs.
They created their problems via shared misery, hoping a common currency would solve their riddle....
As well as favorable trade treaties.
It can't, it won't, because they refuse to change with the times.

A peaceful Korean Peninsula is NOT a threat to us, no, but will in effect release more resources to invest in capitalism, instead of cold war industries, that can provide a windfall and funding for many social programs at home, and abroad.....

Peace, is always a good thing.....
Not sure how folks can square it in their minds, otherwise.    
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Reply #7 - 06/12/18 at 09:52:52
 
The money wasted, the impact on the psyche of the people who are living a world sitting on a powder keg, the difference that eliminating some of that and opening a new area to growth,  

Yeah, got played.
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Reply #8 - 06/12/18 at 10:42:47
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 06/12/18 at 09:52:52:
The money wasted, the impact on the psyche of the people who are living a world sitting on a powder keg, the difference that eliminating some of that and opening a new area to growth,  

Yeah, got played.


You know I have been enflunced by the opportunity to work with many, many people from Asia.
I got a chance to interact with them in a manner that those who read a article, based solely on promoting a already held belief, will never have the benefit of such.
I met folks from these areas, to learn more about their aircraft service, and I have friends who are there, on 3 years gigs, who share with me their experiences.....
Coming to any conclusion based on ignorance of facts, is risky business.
Uttering proganda based on stupidity, is a fools business  Wink

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Reply #9 - 06/12/18 at 13:13:46
 
Rawdawg - your comments are, in a interesting time warp, exactly what Nixon said about China.  So far, its China 1, USA 0.  Next will be Korea 1, USA 0  ??

But wait, wasn't Nixon the Great President? Smiley
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Reply #10 - 06/12/18 at 13:26:31
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 06/12/18 at 09:52:52:
The money wasted, the impact on the psyche of the people who are living a world sitting on a powder keg, the difference that eliminating some of that and opening a new area to growth,  

Yeah, got played.



But, okay, I haven't read the deal or anything, and I'm not very up to speed on this whole thing, but what have the North Korean's given up?  They still have nukes. Their threat is still very very real to South Korea, and to US, but now South Korea can't train with us to help protect themselves? South Korea doesn't have nukes, we do, but will we really use them to defend South Korea?

The impact seems to be we are abandoning our South Korean allies.  

What has North Korea done or committed to suggest that they actually want peace?
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Reply #11 - 06/12/18 at 13:32:49
 
Have we dropped a pallet load of cash on NK yet?
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Reply #12 - 06/12/18 at 13:36:24
 
Actually, I forgot Vietnam (ho ho ho) so its Asia 2 USA 0 so far although if the LSS has promised not to shoot back if North Korea annexes  South Korea (Sort of like the wink wink nod agreement the US had with Russia over the Crimea.)  Perhaps soon it will be Asia 3 USA 0. Well time will tell (or so they say.)  Do you think this is why Donald has been weakening our traditional military ties?

In reality,  I don't know if a united communist Korea is considered by Russia a good thing (a potential threat to China) or not.
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Reply #13 - 06/12/18 at 13:40:33
 
Anyone proclaiming this deal a failure is being foolish. No one knows the long term success or failure at this point. No one.

All we know right now is a deal was struck that if followed through on by both parties, could only be classified as an overwhelming success. But that waits to be seen.

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Reply #14 - 06/12/18 at 13:41:47
 
Trippah wrote on 06/12/18 at 13:13:46:
Rawdawg - your comments are, in a interesting time warp, exactly what Nixon said about China.  So far, its China 1, USA 0.  Next will be Korea 1, USA 0  ??

But wait, wasn't Nixon the Great President? Smiley


Today is the present.....
Context is everything.
Elections have consequences.

Some might say, Trump 1, liberals 0
Even after they tried to buy peace.
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