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Reply #15 - 07/05/18 at 07:36:06
 
We had a visiting preacher from a very liberal church tell us in her view, Jesus was schooled by the woman at the well because he was trapped in a male dominated view and was unable to see her as an individual person. He was just a man in a man's world.

If her face rattled for more than three minutes I would have been gone. I'm not willing to listen to idiots.
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Reply #16 - 07/05/18 at 08:02:37
 
The really fascinating thing about that visit is that most of the members lean left, some strongly.

However, almost everyone said they would never have her back, that she was wrong in her interpretation. Despite our political difference, and they are as great in my church as they are on this motorcycle forum, we were basically united in the fact she had pushed Christianity aside to accommodate political beliefs.

Note: the only significant holdout to this was a college aged, strongly liberal girl majoring in journalism. No kidding.
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Reply #17 - 07/05/18 at 08:11:54
 
WebsterMark wrote on 07/05/18 at 06:52:07:
If I thought that were true, I'd never go to Church again. Why would you go to Church to worship a man? There are lots of men I'd rather worship. I'd rather play golf on Sunday mornings and worship Tiger Woods.



The conundrum here is that Jesus is worshipped for his sacrifice... The Passion...
If he was a god and not just a man,... where is the sacrifice?...
A god knows he is immortal,... there is no sacrifice to dying if you are an immortal being.

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Reply #18 - 07/05/18 at 08:35:12
 
Christianity is based on the Incarnation of God as man in the form of Jesus Christ. The suffering of the Passion was as real as if you or I went through it.

To your question, yes, Christ knew his spirit is immortal and that his earthly suffering was temporary. Real, but temporary.

So the flip side of your conundrum is: as a God, why go through that at all? Why spit yourself into multiple 'pieces', condescend to humanity and genuinely suffer? Unless, (for whatever mysterious reason that eludes me for sure) a sacrifice, a redeemer for mankind was needed.

It makes no logical sense, I agree. A religion that is based on following a clearly defined set of rules where rewards are handed out based on good deeds out-weighing bad deeds seems more logical.

But Christianity is not logical. Putting it into practice means trying to follow logic, but as you've often pointed out, that fails often. You only have to look at the history of the Catholic Church to prove that.

But the Passion is not based on logic. It's supernatural, spiritual; unable to be easily pinned down.

That's the best I can describe.
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Reply #19 - 07/05/18 at 11:27:59
 
Trippah wrote on 07/05/18 at 06:21:15:
and you think the Gospels of Mathew, Mark, Luke and the Jones Bros weren't doctored to meet the perceived needs of their times?  How is the gullibility channel these days?


It seems to me the gullibility channel is doing just fine when I hear statements like this. The gospels are the most scrutinized books in history, in fact the entire bible is. It is the most documented piece of literature in all antiquity.
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