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Reply #46 - 08/15/18 at 14:49:26

He's rude to whomever he is responding to that has said something he feels deserves a good slap.
If he's rude to a statistically smaller segment of society at a rate that is not representative to their percentage of the population, so what?
If that's who is lipping off, that's who gets talked smack to.
Have you seen the prison population?

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Reply #47 - 08/15/18 at 14:57:27

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 08/15/18 at 14:49:26:

He's rude to whomever he is responding to that has said something he feels deserves a good slap.

He's a child and not fit for the office of president.

If he's rude to a statistically smaller segment of society at a rate that is not representative to their percentage of the population, so what?

Yeah, like you would be saying that had Obama called out single people on his twitter feed. Right....

If that's who is lipping off, that's who gets talked smack to.
Have you seen the prison population?

No, but hopefully our president will . Grin

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Reply #48 - 08/15/18 at 15:09:50

Trump has called the following people dogs on Twitter:
Glen Beck; Ted Cruz; David Gregory; Steve Bannon, Chuck Todd; George Will; Bill Maher and "Rev" Wright.

When the discussion of fake news comes up, this is a classic case. It's false that Trump used dog as a racist term. It's just flat out false. But it will be hinted at in some 'newscast' and spoken as absolute fact in others.

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Reply #49 - 08/15/18 at 15:12:11

WebsterMark wrote on 08/15/18 at 15:09:50:

Trump has called the following people dogs on Twitter:
Glen Beck; Ted Cruz; David Gregory; Steve Bannon, Chuck Todd; George Will; Bill Maher and "Rev" Wright.

Yeah, we get it, he's a serial name-caller and acts like a child.

When the discussion of fake news comes up, this is a classic case. It's false that Trump used dog as a racist term. It's just flat out false. But it will be hinted at in some 'newscast' and spoken as absolute fact in others.

Pointing out that trump acts like a petulant child isn't really helping your case of defending him any...

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Reply #51 - 08/15/18 at 21:31:40

WebsterMark wrote on 08/15/18 at 17:52:04:

I’m not defending him, I’m pointing out calling him racist for calling her a dog is not correct. The same papers printing an editorial tomorrow about fake news are proving they are in fact publishing fake news.

The jury is still out on our president being a racist. I think omarosa might have real dirt on this. I guess we'll see.

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WebsterMark Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 14448 Gender:	Re: The Moral High Ground Reply #52 - 08/16/18 at 04:43:40 That "jury" has been out for an awful long time now on a lot of topics, none of which have been found so maybe its time to stop wishing for something that's not there.
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Reply #53 - 08/16/18 at 05:54:41

WebsterMark wrote on 08/16/18 at 04:43:40:

That "jury" has been out for an awful long time now on a lot of topics, none of which have been found so maybe its time to stop wishing for something that's not there.

It's not a wish, it's a fact. All you have to do is look at his twitter feed. This is what's on public display - one can only imagine what he says in private. Now it looks like omarosa (and mark burnett) might have proof of his racism.
(as far as the "jury" - they had hillary on trial for 4 years on Benghazi, so...)

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Reply #54 - 08/16/18 at 06:13:27

It's not a wish, it's a fact. All you have to do is look at his twitter feed. This is what's on public display - one can only imagine what he says in private. Now it looks like omarosa (and mark burnett) might have proof of his racism.

Nothing on his twitter feed indicates he's racist. Racist is a serious charge with a very specific meaning that SHOULD require actual proof, not just disliking someone. Calling someone a dog who happens to be black when you've called dozens of people dogs who are white is not proof of racism.

Again "looks like" and actually having are two different things.

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Reply #55 - 08/16/18 at 07:48:11

WebsterMark wrote on 08/16/18 at 06:13:27:

It's not a wish, it's a fact. All you have to do is look at his twitter feed. This is what's on public display - one can only imagine what he says in private. Now it looks like omarosa (and mark burnett) might have proof of his racism.

Nothing on his twitter feed indicates he's racist. Racist is a serious charge with a very specific meaning that SHOULD require actual proof, not just disliking someone. Calling someone a dog who happens to be black when you've called dozens of people dogs who are white is not proof of racism.

Again "looks like" and actually having are two different things.

There's plenty of fuel for the fire:

"Sleepy eyes" Chuck Todd?
"fine people on both sides"?
"These aren’t people. These are animals."?
"Now this judge is of Mexican heritage, I'm building a wall."?
"bringing drugs, they’re bringing crime, they’re rapists."?

And let's not forget the entire birther movement.

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Reply #56 - 08/16/18 at 08:03:07

Again, none of that is proof of racism. (Chuck Todd?)

Labeling someone a racist should be a serious thing that requires serious evidence. By your standards, given what Bill Clinton said about Obama when Hilary was running against him, you should label him a racist. And by default, since Hilary didn't disagree with his comments or leave him, you should label her a racist too. Since you did not support Carson's presidential run, I could label you a racist. How far would I have to look to read a negative comment of yours about Clarence Thomas?

A racist has a specific meaning and watering it down for political gain doesn't help.

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Reply #57 - 08/16/18 at 09:42:59

WebsterMark wrote on 08/16/18 at 08:03:07:

Again, none of that is proof of racism. (Chuck Todd?)

"Sleepy eyes" is a derogatory term used to describe jews.

Labeling someone a racist should be a serious thing that requires serious evidence. By your standards, given what Bill Clinton said about Obama when Hilary was running against him, you should label him a racist.

When Clinton said "he'd be getting us coffee", he was referring to his inexperience, not his race. Still, Clinton could have chose different words. And also still - not as bad as what our sitting president has said on a public forum.

And by default, since Hilary didn't disagree with his comments or leave him, you should label her a racist too. Since you did not support Carson's presidential run, I could label you a racist.

No, you couldn't. First off, I've never commented about his presidential run, and second, the reason I think he was a bad candidate is because of his incompetence, not his color.

How far would I have to look to read a negative comment of yours about Clarence Thomas?

Pretty far. I don't think I've ever commented on Clarence Thomas.

A racist has a specific meaning and watering it down for political gain doesn't help.

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T And T Garage Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 9839	Re: The Moral High Ground Reply #59 - 08/16/18 at 11:39:37 WebsterMark wrote on 08/16/18 at 11:03:38: Racist Trump just tweeted touching comments about passing of The Queen of Soul. OK, fair enough. But by your logic, if one tweet doesn't make him a racist, then one tweet doesn't exonerate him either.
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