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Re: Breaking the Climate Spell
Reply #45 - 08/16/18 at 13:40:41
 
verslagen1 wrote on 08/16/18 at 13:39:11:
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CO2 emissions by U.S. electric power sector by source, 2017

Source      Million metric tons      Share of sector total
Coal                     1,207                69%
Natural gas          506                  29%
Petroleum               19                  1%
Other2                  12                 <1%
Total      1,744

says it all.



Indeed it does.
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Re: Breaking the Climate Spell
Reply #46 - 08/16/18 at 15:32:40
 
T And T Garage wrote on 08/16/18 at 13:40:41:
Indeed it does.

Think ya missed the point T&T  

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Let's see, your just fine with, immediately, reducing the US's elect power generation by almost 70% ?

OH, Have at it, Where do you cut first ?

I see I need to add:
Would that be just like the ultra-Liberals, who believe immediately cutting 70% of emissions by U.S. electric power sector, will have no effect whatsoever.



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Ben Franklin once said: "If you give up a freedom, for the sake of security, you will have neither".
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Re: Breaking the Climate Spell
Reply #47 - 08/16/18 at 15:35:11
 

 I'd like to know how if we completely stop coal-fired electricity tomorrow, how do we power things?

 There is nowhere near enough alternate fuel sources providing output today to compensate.
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Re: Breaking the Climate Spell
Reply #48 - 08/16/18 at 15:36:39
 
MnSpring wrote on 08/16/18 at 15:32:40:
T And T Garage wrote on 08/16/18 at 13:40:41:
Indeed it does.

Think ya missed the point T&T  

I don't think so.  But if I have, then vers should probably point it out, not you.

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Let's see, your just fine with, immediately, reducing the US's elect power generation by almost 70% ?

Nope, not at all.  I'm not as silly to think that you can just turn off our coal fired power plants.  But you have to start working on and investing in alternatives now.

OH, Have at it, Where do you cut first ?

I see I need to add:
Would that be just like the ultra-Liberals, who believe immediately cutting 70% of emissions by U.S. electric power sector, will have no effect whatsoever.

I know of no liberal anywhere that ever said anything like that.

Do you have any proof of that statement?

If you don't, then why would you say that?



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Reply #49 - 08/16/18 at 15:51:30
 
Does anybody know who said these words ?

"... We should not burn coal at all.

Period.

Full Stop  ..."
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Reply #50 - 08/16/18 at 15:56:11
 
MnSpring wrote on 08/16/18 at 15:51:30:
Does anybody know who said these words ?

"... We should not burn coal at all.

Period.

Full Stop  ..."


I did.  Do you mistake the word "should" for the word "must"?

Should is a suggestion, not a demand.

Once again mn, it's about context.  You need to understand the context of the conversation and not take things out.
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Re: Breaking the Climate Spell
Reply #51 - 08/16/18 at 18:11:27
 
need to understand the context of the conversation and not take things out.

Wow..
You don't play by the rules you want.
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Reply #52 - 08/16/18 at 19:11:50
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 08/16/18 at 18:11:27:
need to understand the context of the conversation and not take things out.

Wow..
You don't play by the rules you want.


Yes I do.  Please show me where I've taken something out of context.
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Re: Breaking the Climate Spell
Reply #53 - 08/16/18 at 21:36:01
 
Oh, ffs, you spent three days
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Re: Breaking the Climate Spell
Reply #54 - 08/17/18 at 05:18:15
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 08/16/18 at 21:36:01:
Oh, ffs, you spent three days

Has  SPUN, and taken everything he can, out of context, whenever he is cornered.  Ask 6 people here.

He will come back and say:  'prove it', as he always does.
But their is no need to waste time, scouring through past posts.
Everyone knows.

It's one set of rules for a Troll, and another set, for everyone else.
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Re: Breaking the Climate Spell
Reply #55 - 08/17/18 at 06:05:09
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 08/16/18 at 21:36:01:
Oh, ffs, you spent three days


And you've spent the last 6 + months crying about what may or may not have happened.

So?
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Reply #56 - 08/17/18 at 06:13:47
 
MnSpring wrote on 08/17/18 at 05:18:15:
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 08/16/18 at 21:36:01:
Oh, ffs, you spent three days

Has  SPUN, and taken everything he can, out of context, whenever he is cornered.  Ask 6 people here.

Show us proof mn.  If it's that prevalent, then it would be easy to show us the proof.

He will come back and say:  'prove it', as he always does.
But their is no need to waste time, scouring through past posts.
Everyone knows.

Ah, very good.  But no, there is a need.  If you accuse me of something, then you'd better be able to prove it.  Otherwise it's just you (and your 5 friends?) lying about it.

It's one set of rules for a Troll, and another set, for everyone else.

Not at all.  If I accuse someone of something, I post the proof.  Those should be the rules for everyone, don't you think?
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Re: Breaking the Climate Spell
Reply #57 - 08/17/18 at 06:24:57
 
"Those should be the rules for everyone, don't you think?"

 No.  Its an open forum, we should be able to accuse without needing "proof".  Forum moderators shouldn't have to go research topics for accuracy to see if we are following forum rules.

 Accuse all day and in the end none of what we type on here really matters.
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Reply #58 - 08/17/18 at 07:56:19
 
Eegore wrote on 08/17/18 at 06:24:57:
"Those should be the rules for everyone, don't you think?"

 No.  Its an open forum, we should be able to accuse without needing "proof".  Forum moderators shouldn't have to go research topics for accuracy to see if we are following forum rules.

Fair enough statement, but to me it's not really about the moderators, it's about decency.  (yeah, now that I type that, I can see the problem)  I guess I just hope that others would follow suit - But to be clear, I'll continue on asking for proof.  Whether or not it's ever done will remain to be seen.

 Accuse all day and in the end none of what we type on here really matters.


Prophetic statement Eegore.  I do see your point - and have actually said basically the same thing.  At the end of the day, all we have is our own conscience to deal with.  I'm good with that.
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Re: Breaking the Climate Spell
Reply #59 - 08/17/18 at 08:45:43
 
T And T Garage wrote on 08/16/18 at 15:36:39:
MnSpring wrote on 08/16/18 at 15:32:40:
T And T Garage wrote on 08/16/18 at 13:40:41:
Indeed it does.

Think ya missed the point T&T  

I don't think so.  But if I have, then vers should probably point it out, not you.

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