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Reply #45 - 08/20/18 at 19:47:35
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 08/20/18 at 19:30:25:
non se·qui·tur
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a conclusion or statement that does not logically follow from the previous argument or statement.

Try to make sense.
Who said anything about that?


Well... to review, here's what was said:

Me - Hey, have you four noticed how defensive you all have gotten?


You - Big difference between defensive and sick of you and your crap.


Me - No one's holding a gun at your head to comment.



The meaning is, your posts are defensive.  You don't have to comment, yet you do.
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Reply #46 - 08/20/18 at 19:48:01
 
WebsterMark wrote on 08/20/18 at 19:34:55:
Which is it?



Which is what?
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Reply #47 - 08/20/18 at 20:00:39
 
meaning is, your posts are defensive.  You don't have to comment, yet you

Your opinion. Based on your history of twisting and lying and choosing to fail to grasp the obvious, I'm not surprised that you see it that way.
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Reply #48 - 08/20/18 at 20:02:55
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 08/20/18 at 20:00:39:
meaning is, your posts are defensive.  You don't have to comment, yet you

Your opinion. Based on your history of twisting and lying and choosing to fail to grasp the obvious, I'm not surprised that you see it that way.


Whatever jog.  Suffice it to say, you don't always have to post a response, you choose to.

If you don't like the outcome, that's on you, not me.
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Reply #49 - 08/21/18 at 06:07:49
 
Let's summarize this and move on before Sew locks this thread. Another way to say that is open his skirts so someone can run and hide behind them.

The same person said both statements.

1) The man you consider a "great businessman" bankrupted a casino... how does anyone even do that?  How can you call a guy who bankrupts several times a success?

2) No mark, I realize that any business can go out of business.

Now, it could be statement number one was an exaggerated claim to make a point. (or as the liberal 'news' media call it, a lie. )

Or it could be an acknowledgment that he really doesn't know much about the world of business or news for that matter outside of what Noah or that English guy pass off as comedy on Comedy Central.

Or he is well informed, intelligent etc and knowingly passed along false information which is the definition of a lie.

Statement number 2 came after the realization he just did the exact same thing he gets his panties in a bunch over when Trump does it. (I wonder if his hair is orange too....)

So, my question stands; which is it.
Are you inept?  (i-nept] ADJECTIVE having or showing no skill; clumsy.

or did you really know casinos go out of business like you said in statement number 2 which means you were lying in statement number 1?

So answer quick so we can get on with it. Answer and I will never mention it again. Never. It will be as if it never happened. The ultimate Mulligan.  
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Reply #50 - 08/21/18 at 06:29:41
 
WebsterMark wrote on 08/21/18 at 06:07:49:
Let's summarize this and move on before Sew locks this thread. Another way to say that is open his skirts so someone can run and hide behind them.

The same person said both statements.

1) The man you consider a "great businessman" bankrupted a casino... how does anyone even do that?  How can you call a guy who bankrupts several times a success?

2) No mark, I realize that any business can go out of business.

Now, it could be statement number one was an exaggerated claim to make a point. (or as the liberal 'news' media call it, a lie. )

Or it could be an acknowledgment that he really doesn't know much about the world of business or news for that matter outside of what Noah or that English guy pass off as comedy on Comedy Central.

Or he is well informed, intelligent etc and knowingly passed along false information which is the definition of a lie.

Statement number 2 came after the realization he just did the exact same thing he gets his panties in a bunch over when Trump does it. (I wonder if his hair is orange too....)

So, my question stands; which is it.
Are you inept?  (i-nept] ADJECTIVE having or showing no skill; clumsy.

or did you really know casinos go out of business like you said in statement number 2 which means you were lying in statement number 1?

So answer quick so we can get on with it. Answer and I will never mention it again. Never. It will be as if it never happened. The ultimate Mulligan.  



Seems you miss the point completely mark.  It makes no difference what I do or don't know about bankrupting a casino.

The point is - you defend our president as a "great businessman".  My question is simple - how can a great businessman bankrupt a casino?

Yes, it is surely possible, especially in trump's case I guess - trump casino properties filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection four times — in 1991, 1992, 2004, and 2009.

So, to get back on track - I'll admit that I know noting about running a casino - that's why I don't.  However, it's common knowledge that when run by a great businessman, they thrive (see steve wynn).

You proclaim that one of the largest qualifications of trump being president is that he's a "great businessman".  I have yet to see that "greatness".
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Reply #51 - 08/21/18 at 07:08:31
 
Nope. You either lied or are inept. It's not a case of not knowing about bankrupting a casino. I'm judging you using your well known and frequent standards.

Did you make a wild claim about how could anyone be so dumb as to bankrupt a casino because everyone knows casinos never go bankrupt and you'd have to be a moron to do that.....or.....did you know that just like other companies, they go bankrupt due to forces beyond their control and you said that anyway to make Trump look bad, meaning you lied.
Which one?

FYI; I'm not sure I proclaimed Trump to be a great businessman. Don't recall saying that. Maybe I did, but I'd have to see the CONTEXT.

But...is he a great businessman? I'll say this as an answer. You have known the name Donald Trump for most of your adult life. His name is on buildings and properties across the globe. Most major politicians got down on their knees and kissed his behind. Hilary included. They all took his money and their pictures with him. Here's the biggest point however, before he announced he was running for President, anyone in the world would have taken his call 2 years ago excited at the prospect. Anyone.
So, would you say he's a great businessman?

Now you can answer two questions for me.
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Reply #52 - 08/21/18 at 07:44:11
 
WebsterMark wrote on 08/21/18 at 06:07:49:
Let's summarize this and move on before Sew locks this thread. Another way to say that is
open his skirts so someone can run and hide behind them.  ..."

First TT says:
“…  how does anyone even do that? …”
Concerning a person going bankrupt.
When that was said,  people didn’t know, if TT was a Lier or Inept.

It is the second statement that TT said:
“… I realize that any business can go out of business …”
That proved TT was lying.

The the Beauty Part.
TT said: “… Run away and don’t answer the question…”
When TT does not answer questions that are asked of him.
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Reply #53 - 08/21/18 at 08:34:57
 
WebsterMark wrote on 08/21/18 at 07:08:31:
Nope. You either lied or are inept. It's not a case of not knowing about bankrupting a casino. I'm judging you using your well known and frequent standards.

Did you make a wild claim about how could anyone be so dumb as to bankrupt a casino because everyone knows casinos never go bankrupt and you'd have to be a moron to do that.....or.....did you know that just like other companies, they go bankrupt due to forces beyond their control and you said that anyway to make Trump look bad, meaning you lied.
Which one?

Well mark, a "great businessman" wouldn't let those forces prevail, now would they?

FYI; I'm not sure I proclaimed Trump to be a great businessman. Don't recall saying that. Maybe I did, but I'd have to see the CONTEXT.

Fair enough:

Me-The man's never held public office.  He is literally a reality TV show host.
You - He ran numerous business' and created an entire empire. doesn't that perspective and business experience count for anything?


But...is he a great businessman? I'll say this as an answer. You have known the name Donald Trump for most of your adult life. His name is on buildings and properties across the globe. Most major politicians got down on their knees and kissed his behind. Hilary included. They all took his money and their pictures with him. Here's the biggest point however, before he announced he was running for President, anyone in the world would have taken his call 2 years ago excited at the prospect. Anyone.

So not true (you're nearly lying, but I'll let it go) - not one single US bank was lending him money.  His TV show was sinking in the ratings and he was being fed cash by the russain mafia.

So, would you say he's a great businessman?

No, he's not.  He's a self-promoter that has far more failures than successes - business wise.  His properties are propped up by the russians - just ask eric trump.  He got his start with his daddy's money and made nothing on his own.  Just like the presidency, he woke up on third base and called it a home run.

Now you can answer two questions for me.


See above.
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Reply #54 - 08/21/18 at 08:36:50
 
MnSpring wrote on 08/21/18 at 07:44:11:
WebsterMark wrote on 08/21/18 at 06:07:49:
Let's summarize this and move on before Sew locks this thread. Another way to say that is
open his skirts so someone can run and hide behind them.  ..."

First TT says:
“…  how does anyone even do that? …”
Concerning a person going bankrupt.
When that was said,  people didn’t know, if TT was a Lier or Inept.

It is the second statement that TT said:
“… I realize that any business can go out of business …”
That proved TT was lying.

The the Beauty Part.
TT said: “… Run away and don’t answer the question…”
When TT does not answer questions that are asked of him.


If you would actually read my responses, you'd see mn.

The way I see it, only a poor businessman could bankrupt multiple casinos.  That's what trump did.  He's not a "great businessman".

Understand?
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Reply #55 - 08/21/18 at 14:52:56
 
WebsterMark wrote on 08/20/18 at 10:08:09:
If I were shown Trump was only out for himself or was traitorous towards the US, I'd flip on him instantly. But nothing I've seen shows that.


I'm going to hold you to that.

If,... it is proven that Trump knew about the Russians hacking the DNC and election precincts,.. would you qualify that as treasonous?...
... or only if Democrats did it?... Grin

I assume revoking security clearances for political reasons is not.
I assume lying about his son's meeting with Russians is not.
Lying about spending the night in a Russian hotel during the Miss Universe Pageant is not.
Lying about trying to negotiate a deal with Putin to build the tallest building in Russia during the election campaign is not.

One more,... if it comes out that Trump paid off a woman he got pregnant and she very soon after aborted the child,... would that change your mind?
That would be somewhat equivalent, by your standards, to killing someone in Times square.
Correct?...
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Reply #56 - 08/21/18 at 15:07:52
 
Serowbot wrote on 08/21/18 at 14:52:56:
WebsterMark wrote on 08/20/18 at 10:08:09:
If I were shown Trump was only out for himself or was traitorous towards the US, I'd flip on him instantly. But nothing I've seen shows that.


I'm going to hold you to that.

If,... it is proven that Trump knew about the Russians hacking the DNC and election precincts,.. would you qualify that as treasonous?...
... or only if Democrats did it?... Grin

Need specifics. who hacked election precincts? That happened?
I assume revoking security clearances for political reasons is not.
No way to prove that so No.
I assume lying about his son's meeting with Russians is not.
No.
Lying about spending the night in a Russian hotel during the Miss Universe Pageant is not.
Honestly, never heard that before.
Lying about trying to negotiate a deal with Putin to build the tallest building in Russia during the election campaign is not.
Never heard that before either but if he did, is that a problem? Am I missing something?

One more,... if it comes out that Trump paid off a woman he got pregnant and she very soon after aborted the child,... would that change your mind?
Are you making stuff up now?
but no, that's not traitorous.
That would be somewhat equivalent, by your standards, to killing someone in Times square.
Correct?...

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Reply #57 - 08/21/18 at 15:41:37
 
T And T Garage wrote on 08/20/18 at 19:47:35:
Well... to review, here's what was said:
Me - Hey, have you four noticed how defensive you all have gotten?
You - Big difference between defensive and sick of you and your crap.
Me - No one's holding a gun at your head to comment.
The meaning is, your posts are defensive.  You don't have to comment, yet you do.


Really. REALLY ?
So when you, post something,
then in the next post,
Counter it.
Why do you NOT, admit you are Lying ?







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Reply #58 - 08/21/18 at 16:07:19
 
WebsterMark wrote on 08/21/18 at 15:07:52:
Serowbot wrote on 08/21/18 at 14:52:56:
WebsterMark wrote on 08/20/18 at 10:08:09:
If I were shown Trump was only out for himself or was traitorous towards the US, I'd flip on him instantly. But nothing I've seen shows that.




I'm going to hold you to that.

If,... it is proven that Trump knew about the Russians hacking the DNC and election precincts,.. would you qualify that as treasonous?...
... or only if Democrats did it?... Grin

Need specifics. who hacked election precincts? That happened?
I assume revoking security clearances for political reasons is not.
No way to prove that so No.
I assume lying about his son's meeting with Russians is not.
No.
Lying about spending the night in a Russian hotel during the Miss Universe Pageant is not.
Honestly, never heard that before.
Lying about trying to negotiate a deal with Putin to build the tallest building in Russia during the election campaign is not.
Never heard that before either but if he did, is that a problem? Am I missing something?

One more,... if it comes out that Trump paid off a woman he got pregnant and she very soon after aborted the child,... would that change your mind?
Are you making stuff up now?
but no, that's not traitorous.
That would be somewhat equivalent, by your standards, to killing someone in Times square.
Correct?...



Flight records show Trump spent night in Russia, contradicting what he told Comey
Lying to a federal prosecutor...
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/384461-flight-records-show-trump-s...

Trump signed letter of intent for Russian tower during campaign, lawyer says
He said he had no dealings with Russia during the campaign.
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-knew-moscow-tower-proposal-campaign-law...

...just a theory, I know... but Cohen even used the same pseudonyms, David Dennison and Peggy Peterson in the NDA...
David Dennison is famously an alias Trump has used in the past.
Here’s a Theory About That $1.6 Million Payout From a GOP Official to a Playboy Model
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/05/theory-playboy-model-had-affair-...
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Reply #59 - 08/21/18 at 17:34:45
 
MnSpring wrote on 08/21/18 at 15:41:37:
T And T Garage wrote on 08/20/18 at 19:47:35:
Well... to review, here's what was said:
Me - Hey, have you four noticed how defensive you all have gotten?
You - Big difference between defensive and sick of you and your crap.
Me - No one's holding a gun at your head to comment.
The meaning is, your posts are defensive.  You don't have to comment, yet you do.


Really. REALLY ?
So when you, post something,
then in the next post,
Counter it.
Why do you NOT, admit you are Lying ?



Simple mn - because I'm not lying.

If you have proof of me lying, then please - post it.
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