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Dave YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 18580 Camp Springs, Kentucky Gender:	Re: Why Harley Sales are down. Reply #15 - 08/29/18 at 07:26:59 On the Cincinnati Craigslist - you have 1,175 used Harley bikes to choose from. https://cincinnati.craigslist.org/search/mca?query=Harley
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Reply #16 - 08/29/18 at 07:51:07

That isn't really a fair number though. That figure includes any bike with a HD logo on it, like the Evo's. I don't consider them to be a real Harley after the last ironhead rolled off the production line, or after the last generator shovelhead was assembled. And I only include the generator shovel because those were just outside oiler pans with the wrong heads installed. Wink

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Matchless G11 Senior Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 451 Newfoundland NJ	Re: Why Harley Sales are down. Reply #17 - 08/29/18 at 15:01:09 True in a lot of ways.. Strangely a bike market that is selling is the Grom and Grom wantabes I think there is a rebelling sprit that said. "We don't believe you when you say a 850 is a starter bike."
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Dave YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 18580 Camp Springs, Kentucky Gender:	Re: Why Harley Sales are down. Reply #18 - 08/29/18 at 15:53:29 Matchless G11 wrote on 08/29/18 at 15:01:09: I think there is a rebelling sprit that said. "We don't believe you when you say a 850 is a starter bike." I don't believe you when you tell me an 850 is a starter bike! That is what the Rebel 250 & 400, TU250, SR400, etc. are best at.
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MMRanch Serious Thumper Offline Evil flourishes if Good Men do Nothing. Posts: 6154 LYNCHBURG TN Gender:	Re: Why Harley Sales are down. Reply #19 - 08/29/18 at 20:10:33 Cheep transportation ? Well my car gets 37mpg. So a bike getting 42mpg just don't make the cut. The 500 Rebel might fill the requirements for Cheep transportation. I'm thinking Harley has priced themselves out of the equation . The dealer was showing me a used Street glide last Friday for $18,000.00 + 800+ lbs. 42mpg stuff.
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raydawg Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 11551 pacific northwest Gender:	Re: Why Harley Sales are down. Reply #20 - 08/29/18 at 20:46:27 I think Harley learnt from copier manufacturers..... Sell the bike cheap, then make all the big bucks off of clothing, etc....
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batman Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 3806 osceola new york Gender:	Re: Why Harley Sales are down. Reply #21 - 08/29/18 at 23:31:24 raydawg wrote on 08/29/18 at 20:46:27: I think Harley learnt from copier manufacturers..... Sell the bike cheap, then make all the big bucks off of clothing, etc.... sell the bikes cheap? Raydawg have you checked the cost of a Harley lately?
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Reply #22 - 08/30/18 at 05:14:24

MMRanch wrote on 08/28/18 at 10:57:55:

Our local Harley StealerShip had a program in August :

Every Friday in August between 10:00 and 16:00 hrs. you get a FREE "T-Shirt" with every test ride .

So , me and my buddy Charles (looking for something to do)(retired folks) deside to go Check-out the new Harleys and enjoy a 120 mile round trip in the process. The Free "T-shirt" only sweetened the day.

So , we walk in and the receptionist ask how can I help ya ? Well , I'm right up front with her and tell her "I'm here to get a free "T-shirt" and get a Harley Experience to think back on ! " So she gets us a salesperson.

The salesman ask "You really want a test ride ?" or " Just the shirt" . Come to find out there's a bunch of paper work to taking a test ride , so he just gave us free shirt.

But while I was there I looked at all their bikes … Undecided

… There wasn't a one of them I wanted to test-out anyway !

The 500 & 750 Street got my attention but they are built for Folks who have to get "tippy toed" to make 5 foot tall. They might make it big in the Asian market ?

Hey! There are some short white folk out here. That's why I just bought a street 750!

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SoC Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 520 New Jersey Gender:	Re: Why Harley Sales are down. Reply #23 - 08/30/18 at 08:33:21 Unlike the old days Harley has a lot of competition in the v-twin category. With everybody making them now, it's a pretty common thing. When you can buy a new Honda Fury for a base MSR price of about $10,500, look unline and see them for around 9k, the question might be where is the value.
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Reply #24 - 08/30/18 at 08:45:18

SoC wrote on 08/30/18 at 08:33:21:

Unlike the old days Harley has a lot of competition in the v-twin category. With everybody making them now, it's a pretty common thing. When you can buy a new Honda Fury for a base MSR price of about $10,500, look unline and see them for around 9k, the question might be where is the value.

Or for less than $ 5,000 with only 361 miles on them.......

https://cincinnati.craigslist.org/mcy/d/2016-honda-1300-fury-only-361/6640029416
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Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 29673 Tucson Az Gender:	Re: Why Harley Sales are down. Reply #25 - 08/30/18 at 08:50:27 batman wrote on 08/28/18 at 21:28:14: HD wants to make smaller cheaper bikes to appeal to younger buyers ,... I think if Harley had made the Blast a lightweight, 500cc, mini-Sportster, they would have had a winner...
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Dave YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 18580 Camp Springs, Kentucky Gender:	Re: Why Harley Sales are down. Reply #26 - 08/30/18 at 10:14:01 Serowbot wrote on 08/30/18 at 08:50:27: I think if Harley had made the Blast a lightweight, 500cc, mini-Sportster, they would have had a winner... Yes, that would have been a most excellent corporate decision!
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jcstokes Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com is very useful Posts: 2152 Mauku New Zealand Gender:	Re: Why Harley Sales are down. Reply #27 - 08/30/18 at 15:17:08 Do the deal, get Suzuki to kill of the S40 and have it re branded as an HD WITH A Versy tensioner and a standard non vacuum petcock
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Re: Why Harley Sales are down.
Reply #28 - 08/30/18 at 20:14:31

Clyde wrote:

Hey! There are some short white folk out here. That's why I just bought a street 750!

I'm glad you liked it , I like the idea of the 500 version , but my knees came up above the fuel tank. But the Great fuel millage and the nimble look of it them sure got my eye ! Wink

So , if the Savage had a Harley emblem would it get more respect ? Huh

Of course with a Harley emblem it couldn't run as GOOD ! Grin

, Well Maybe ?

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batman Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 3806 osceola new york Gender:	Re: Why Harley Sales are down. Reply #29 - 08/31/18 at 22:13:17 I don't know about respect, but the price of parts would at least double.
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