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Is Web right again?
08/27/18 at 20:10:17

If I recall, he said the Trumpmwas right about trade and tariffs.
I know I thought it was too risky, but I am a one hand in a bush as opposed to two possible chicks with their own bikes, sorta guy 🤔

I’ll just shut up, let others call the shots, as my investments pile up, and you should see the all the work out here, years worth of new construction with no signs of slowing down.
I may never get to retire in total Grin

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On Monday, they have been proved wrong by an unmitigated victory for the USA.

Trump understood the simple math that countries with which we have trade deficits would have to come to the negotiating table. By definition, we buy more from them than they buy from us, which gives us the power any major consumer has over a seller. These countries also cannot afford to lose access to our $20 trillion economy—the world’s largest. Trump realized the power this gives us and decided to use it to level the playing field for American workers—unlike other recent presidents.

This victory will lead to others. The leftwing government of Canada, the other member of NAFTA, had refused to negotiate seriously, perhaps believing their friends in the progressive commentariat predicting Trump’s demise.

Canada’s foreign minister, Chrystia Freeland, spent most of her time on visits to the U.S. lobbying governors and congressmen rather than talking seriously to our trade negotiators. Her boss, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, even though it was a good idea to antagonize Trump at his failed G7 summit in June.

Canada must now return, hat in hand, for a deal. If not, Trump will advance the deal with Mexico and leave Canada behind. Today he again vowed to raise car tariffs on Canada if it refuses to revise unfair levies of nearly 300 percent on some American goods, among other unfair practices.

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WebsterMark Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 14448 Gender:	Re: Is Web right again? Reply #1 - 08/28/18 at 04:15:33 Funny but I hear that same phrase at work all the time.....! Coincidentally, my company is doing a ground breaking ceremony today for an expansion.
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Reply #2 - 08/28/18 at 05:21:31

So - from a feared terrorist attack at McCain's funeral to celebrating trump's yet to be auto tariff with Canada?

Nice! What an interesting range you have ray.

I'm not poo poo-ing the end of NAFTA, but all this celebration seems very similar to dubya's "Mission Accomplished".

If all goes well, this will in turn help the farmers down the road - but we all know it's not as simple as all that.

BTW - my portfolio is going gangbusters too - but on the advice of more than one advisor, I'm shifting more to the bond market. Cautious optimism - especially when dealing with an idiot like trump at the helm.

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Reply #3 - 08/28/18 at 05:25:10

I think he has the right ideas but poor implementation methods.

In my field of work there are record cuts, we lost 20% Federal funding and to maintain jobs they have gone to posting the job but not hiring candidates. So there's no job losses, but no human is there doing the task.

I understand it but I don't care for the duplicitous methods used to make it look like employment numbers are the same when they aren't.

I don't expect economic expansion across the board, I think it would be ridiculous in a competitive economy to expect everyone to make money at the same time.

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Reply #4 - 08/28/18 at 06:10:30

Eegore wrote on 08/28/18 at 05:25:10:

I think he has the right ideas but poor implementation methods.

In my field of work there are record cuts, we lost 20% Federal funding and to maintain jobs they have gone to posting the job but not hiring candidates. So there's no job losses, but no human is there doing the task.

I understand it but I don't care for the duplicitous methods used to make it look like employment numbers are the same when they aren't.

I don't expect economic expansion across the board, I think it would be ridiculous in a competitive economy to expect everyone to make money at the same time.

Seems like life itself is peaks and valleys, good times, bad times....
Not sure if it’s ever been consistent.
I think you are in the medical service field, right?
My wife is in the medical field as well, she manages a practice, they just hired 2 new doctors.
Not sure how that is the result of this type of news, or not.

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Reply #5 - 08/28/18 at 06:59:59

Eegore wrote on 08/28/18 at 05:25:10:

I think he has the right ideas but poor implementation methods.

In my field of work there are record cuts,
We know nothing about that. For all I know, you should have zero support.

we lost 20% Federal funding and to maintain jobs they have gone to posting the job but not hiring candidates. So there's no job losses, but no human is there doing the task.

Nobody is doing the job? What job?
You're so vague about it, nobody can know what to think.

I understand it but I don't care for the duplicitous methods used to make it look like employment numbers are the same when they aren't.

Our elected representatives have been being duplicitous for decades. The unemployment numbers are bullshit. You have to be able to see what is going on to get a clue. Try this guy..

http://www.shadowstats.com/alternate_data/unemployment-charts

I don't expect economic expansion across the board, I think it would be ridiculous in a competitive economy to expect everyone to make money at the same time.

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raydawg Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 11551 pacific northwest Gender:	Re: Is Web right again? Reply #6 - 08/28/18 at 07:13:34 WebsterMark wrote on 08/28/18 at 04:15:33: Funny but I hear that same phrase at work all the time.....! Coincidentally, my company is doing a ground breaking ceremony today for an expansion. That is awesome !
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WebsterMark Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 14448 Gender:	Re: Is Web right again? Reply #7 - 08/28/18 at 07:53:43 I'd send you a link since its broadcast on the web but it would be easy to find who I am in the real world and I don't trust any of you with that info!!!! They planned this expansion about a year ago based on customer demand.
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raydawg Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 11551 pacific northwest Gender:	Re: Is Web right again? Reply #8 - 08/28/18 at 08:08:39 Haha.....smart. I will take good news any day over negative 😋
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Reply #9 - 08/28/18 at 14:39:06

"We know nothing about that. For all I know, you should have zero support"

I don't work for free no matter what the job is.

"Nobody is doing the job? What job?
You're so vague about it, nobody can know what to think"

I don't have permission in writing to discuss beyond Federal contracting and education.

The problem is I am getting 20% less money but expected to provide 100% of the resources I have provided in the past. This is coupled with a 20% cut in staff that utilize my services. So if there's 20% less pay and 20% less personnel using the services what would providing 100% product do? It would mean I pay the additional 20% out of my pocket, for staff that don't exist, and I am not willing to do that.

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Reply #10 - 08/28/18 at 14:54:41

I'm familiar with Shadowstats, I feel it is guesswork as its clearly motivated by conspiracy theory.

I mean he doesn't even provide his methodology and indicates in one of his calculations that the curve "reflects the CPI as if it were calculated using the methodologies in place in 1980"

The problem here being that prior to 1983, the CPI was calculated using actual housing prices, then in 1983 they went to owner's equivalent rent. So if this is the calculation then why was the curve parallel during the housing price drop instead of narrowing? He can't be doing What he says he is, but it looks good on a graph.

If Shadowstats is correct and inflation has been overstated by 5%, then real GDP per capita today is actually less than half its 1983 level. Really?

A lot of professionals have gone through this and can explain it better than me:

http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/2015/04/deconstructing-and-debunki...

https://www.usnews.com/opinion/economic-intelligence/2014/10/17/shadowstats-a...

http://www.rationalskepticism.org/general-debunking/debunking-shadowstats-t38...

http://econbrowser.com/archives/2008/09/shadowstats_deb

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Reply #11 - 08/28/18 at 14:58:06

Eegore wrote on 08/28/18 at 14:39:06:

"We know nothing about that. For all I know, you should have zero support" I don't work for free no matter what the job is. "Nobody is doing the job? What job?You're so vague about it, nobody can know what to think" I don't have permission in writing to discuss beyond Federal contracting and education. The problem is I am getting 20% less money but expected to provide 100% of the resources I have provided in the past. This is coupled with a 20% cut in staff that utilize my services. So if there's 20% less pay and 20% less personnel using the services what would providing 100% product do? It would mean I pay the additional 20% out of my pocket, for staff that don't exist, and I am not willing to do that.

So under Obama, I, a Private Citizen, am expected to live on Less %, of money, than I did before.

Yet a Business, collecting a less of % money, is not expected to provide the same level of service ?

Why ?

(Now for the Panty in a Bunch people)
I do, NOT believe either should happen.
YET, the Ultra-Liberals, believe it should !

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Eegore Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 9914	Re: Is Web right again? Reply #12 - 08/28/18 at 15:26:31 I made more money as a Private Citizen under Obama so I don't think that expectation was universal. "Yet a Business, collecting a less of % money, is not expected to provide the same level of service ?" I would think so. If I buy 1000 apples at $100 then pay $80 I would not expect to get 1000 apples.
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Reply #13 - 08/28/18 at 16:44:33

You guys seem to be going off in a different tangent to bolster your own opinion....
Which is cool, but maybe ya might want to try a different title, to get the correct replies?

Anyway, another observation.
Boeing is HUGE, and they use that as leverage to squeeze vendors to get cost down.
Without going into a bunch of suppositions on my part, let me tell you a fact, that I observed firsthand, before I left...
Boeing was losing market share to airbus.
It wasn’t so much that they were taking away business, no, but that airlines could not wait for the time is would take to get a delivery from Boeing, so they, not all, but many, opted to go with airbus to get a plane sooner.
Anyway, airbus is cheaper, but there are lots of reasons why.
Boeing used this information as a tool to say EVERYBODY has to help us cut cost to compete, etc.
They squeezed the vendors to cut price 20%.
Or lose contracts, etc.
Vendors cut labor.
The parts I got to install on the plane had all sorts of issues, from not getting them in time to install, which now caused out of sequence work, no good, for all sorts of reasons, to non conforming parts I could not install.
So, trying to save 20% added additional cost to the build, as well as delayed delivery.

Money is always a factor, either way, you just need to find the right balance to get the best product, and production....
It’s doable, but always changing.

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